Dear Nina and Jim,

thank you for the interesting information on the usage of vinaa. I like to know about mano too, and yes, later on, my energy for Pali is a little depleted after the recent verses in Sadd. ;-)

metta,
Yong Peng.

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Nina van Gorkom wrote:

I knew you would find additional info. Please let us know about mano later on, Nina.

> I see in Apte's Skt. dictionary that 'vinaa' can be constructed
> with the accusative and ablative in addition to the instrumental.
> Also, in Kacc 272 we find: "vinaa saddhammaa nattha~n~no koci naatho
> loke vijjati, vinaa saddhamma.m, vinaa saddhammena vaa. vinaa
> buddhasmaa, vinaa buddha.m, vinaa buddhena vaa".