Dear Yong Peng,
Thank you very much.
Op 31-mei-2009, om 15:00 heeft Ong Yong Peng het volgende geschreven:
> savitakka (adj) accompanied by reasoning.
> savicaara (adj) accompanied by investigation.
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Usually the jhaanafactors of vitakka and vicaara are translated as
applied thinking and sustained thinking. They are factors
accompanying the lower stages of jhaana. They are still needed, the
meditator has to 'think' of the meditation subject in order to be
absorbed. But later on he can abandon these coarse factors, and then
jhaana is more refined.
Adding from the commentary: there are different reasons for
cultivating jhaana, such as becoming concentrated, as basis for
developing miraculous powers, but here: as basis for vipassanaa. He
emerges from jhaana and considers all conditioned dhammas, their
causes and conditions until he has attained arahatship. The
commentator speaks about lokiya jhaana and lokuttara jhaana.
N: Lokuttara jhaana accompanies lokuttara citta that experiences
nibbaana.
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Nina.
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