Ideally, we need to look up, tabulate, compare and deliberate on all the
occurrences of the term and its related forms. Often we will find (esp in
the early Suttas) that many words and terms are contextual. In other words,
it is not always the a word or term has a fixed meaning.

So too with sappurisa. This approach of course takes a lot of time, patience
and dexterity. But it is rewarding.

With metta,

Piya Tan

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:57 PM, DC Wijeratna <dcwijeratna@...> wrote:

> I have the impression that ariya/non ariya distinction is one and
> sappurisa/asappurisa is anoteher. Sammpurisa/asappurisa is essentially a
> moral or ethica and ariya/non-ariya is related to knowledge and vision. May
> be I am mistaken.
>
> Mettaa
>
> D. G. D. C. Wijeratna
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jim Anderson <jimanderson.on@... <jimanderson.on%40gmail.com>>
> To: Pali@yahoogroups.com <Pali%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:37:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Pali] Ariya
>
> Dear Piya,
>
> Thanks for mentioning the term 'sappurisa' and giving a link to your
> discussion of it. I had a quick glance and the part where you refer to the
> asappurisa or false individual as one who "shows conceit on account of his
> religious state" caught my attention. Wouldn't the asappurisa therefore
> include the sekkha or learner (including the non-returner) since such an
> individual has yet to get rid of the fetter of conceit? I'm afraid I
> haven't
> much time right now to start looking up what the Pali commentaries have to
> say about the term sappurisa or asappurisa.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jim
>
> > Dear Jim,
> >
> > The helpful AA definition of ariya,saavaka is helpful; puthuijjana etc
> are
> > also defined on the same AA reference.
> >
> > Ariya,saavaka and sappurisa are often mentioned together too. I think
> that
> > sappurisa sometimes refers ariyas and sometimes to their disciples (who
> > are
> > kalya.na puthujjana). I've discussed SAPPURISA in Section 3 of the Intro
> > to
> > my Sappurisa Sutta (M 113) translation:
> >
> > http://earlypalisut ta.googlepages. com/23.7Sappuris aSuttam113piya. pdf
> >
> > Any comments are welcome.
> >
> > With metta,
> >
> > Piya Tan
> >
>
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>
>
>



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