I have the impression that ariya/non ariya distinction is one and sappurisa/asappurisa is anoteher. Sammpurisa/asappurisa is essentially a moral or ethica and ariya/non-ariya is related to knowledge and vision. May be I am mistaken.

Mettaa
 D. G. D. C. Wijeratna




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From: Jim Anderson <jimanderson.on@...>
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:37:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Pali] Ariya


Dear Piya,

Thanks for mentioning the term 'sappurisa' and giving a link to your
discussion of it. I had a quick glance and the part where you refer to the
asappurisa or false individual as one who "shows conceit on account of his
religious state" caught my attention. Wouldn't the asappurisa therefore
include the sekkha or learner (including the non-returner) since such an
individual has yet to get rid of the fetter of conceit? I'm afraid I haven't
much time right now to start looking up what the Pali commentaries have to
say about the term sappurisa or asappurisa.

Best wishes,
Jim

> Dear Jim,
>
> The helpful AA definition of ariya,saavaka is helpful; puthuijjana etc are
> also defined on the same AA reference.
>
> Ariya,saavaka and sappurisa are often mentioned together too. I think that
> sappurisa sometimes refers ariyas and sometimes to their disciples (who
> are
> kalya.na puthujjana). I've discussed SAPPURISA in Section 3 of the Intro
> to
> my Sappurisa Sutta (M 113) translation:
>
> http://earlypalisut ta.googlepages. com/23.7Sappuris aSuttam113piya. pdf
>
> Any comments are welcome.
>
> With metta,
>
> Piya Tan
>

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