Nina van Gorkom wrote thus at 11:05 PM 03-03-09:

>Op 3-mrt-2009, om 9:47 heeft Kumara Bhikkhu het volgende geschreven:
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>N: Yes, this is a sixfold classification we find in the Suttanta:
>mano-vi~n~naa.na are all the cittas that are not seeing, hearing etc.
>But this is not the only way of classification of citta.
>I cannot get at the texts you refer to.

I think it would be good for modern Buddhists to refer to these notes by Ven Bhikkhu Bodhi, as it conveniently provide us with a more updated understanding, which may be more reasonable compared to the orthodox explanations.

>> Bhikkhu: I quote from B.Bodhi's note: "It's citta that is to be
>> understood, trained and liberated." We certainly don't need to
>> train the vi~n~naa.na, which does its job no matter what.
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>N: I think this is a way of explaining mental training. But I cannot
>say much since I do not have the context. Different terms in
>different contexts, but no matter citta or vi~n~naa.na, they do their
>job. There is no one who could interfere.

"No one" as in no person, I agree. But in case some people may take that wrongly, I like to add that it would a mistake to regard the mind as beyond intervention. If that were so, killers would kill, stealers would steal, and cannot be rightly blamed for them.

The mind is not ours, but we are responsible for it.

kb