Dear John,

Just after I posted my message I remembered that there might be a file
for input easy (thid you really write it yourself!Wow!)
I could not get the previews working on my computer, that is why I did
not download the program. Yesterday I decided to try and download
anyway, and input easy does work. I have already extracted the
vocabulary to a spreadsheet. Thank you very much for your kind offer.

Metta,

Ria

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "John Kelly" <palistudent@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Ria,
>
> Years ago, I created an input easy file for all the vocabulary words
> from Gair/Karunatillake's "New Course in REading Pali". I can extract
> the chapters out to text files, combine into one file, convert to
> velthuis, and put them into a spreadsheet for you.
>
> With metta,
> John
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "grasje" <grasje@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Yong Peng,
> >
> >
> > Yes, I have adopted John's suggestion for Velthuis. Velthuis looks
> > ugly but forces you to pay attention to the dots, lines and ~ symbols.
> >
> > I have no idea how to make something in javascript.
> >
> > But: If you look in the files under the directory jmemorise files, you
> > will see 5 files: 4 vocabularies and one file for memorising the
> > declension of masculine nouns in a. For the program itself see
> > (http://jmemorize.org/). Today I have been working on a wordlist for
> > conjugating verbs. (I am studying chapter 9 of the pali primer, about
> > the -tva, and -tu.m, so I need to practice this part of the grammar.
> > Amazing how much you pick up by making wordlists, even if you did not
> > really practice yet). When I meet them in the lessons to come, there
> > will undoubtably follow jmemorise files for other nouns ending in
> > whatever letter they end.
> >
> > I ask you to WAIT A FEW (3) WEEKS, then you may host the sheet and the
> > jmemorise files on tipitaka.net. I just found out that Warder
> > recommends learning masculen nouns nouns ending a as if they ended in
> > o (janako, maatulo), so you will easily remember the gender and the
> > way the word declines. Neuter a-nouns should be learned ending in .m;
> > (khetta.m). Etc. It is a very sound advice.
> > I plan to rework the vocabularies (spreadsheet and Jmemorise files;
> > dont't worry, I can let the spreadheet do this for me, I am not going
> > to type it out) so the words end in the recommended letter. When I'm
> > finished you can host the lists on tipitaka.net.
> >
> > I personally think the Jmemorise files are very handy, but I myself
> > still need the spreasdheet to learn to type the words correctly.
> > Jmemorise asks only to choose if you remembered a word correctly or
> > not. Especially as a beginner it takes dedicated effort to make a
> > difference between m and .m. For me, typing is essential and now I use
> > both jmemorise and the spreadsheet. Spreadsheets can't be hosted, can
> > they?
> >
> > My plans for the near future are:
> > - Reworking the list for word-ending of nouns
> > - making declension-of-verb-list (as I meet them during the study)
> > - making listst for declensions of other nouns (as I meet them during
> > the study)
> > - In the last tab of the spreadsheet I have already added a list of
> > the chapters of the pali primer and the elementary course (this is one
> > of the differences between the seemingly similar files), in a logical
> > order for learning. I still want to add references to that list to
> > Duroiselles grammar, so students can read a bit explanation about the
> > grammar rules they learn in the courses. ( but when I go through the
> > study, my ideas about what is logical will change, I guess.)
> > - go through the old postings and select the "beginners" questions,
> > like the recent discussion on word order. Put them together in a
> > word-file. A kind of question and answer-file.
> >
> > In this way I hope to gather the essential material for pali students
> > who, like me, study at home by themselves. Rearranging existing
> > material in a logical order for learning the language. I need it
> > myself in order to make progress, and I am very happy to be able to
> > share it with others.
> >
> > If you need lists reworked for Warder or the new pali course, I might
> > be of some help. Right now I have skimmed through lesson 1-5 of Warder
> > and decided to stay with the Pali primer and the elementary course. (I
> > found the Warder vocabulary somewhere on the net, and I processed it
> > to fit in the sheet and jmemorise files. whish I could find the
> > vocabulary files of "a new course in reading pali". Or is that
> > forbidden because of copyright troubles?. I don't think I can soon be
> > of help in the translation exercises.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Ria Glas
> >
> > --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Ong Yong Peng" <palismith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Ria and John,
> > >
> > > thanks, Ria. It seems like you have adopted John's suggestion, and
> > > now the pali words are all in velthuis. This is good, as it is
still
> > > easier to type in velthuis than in, say, unicode. However, now,
there
> > > seems to be 2 similar files in the system. ;-)
> > >
> > > This is a really admirable project, especially for those who want to
> > > build up pali vocabulary fast. If you can do something similar in
> > > javascript, I can host it on tipitaka.net. ;-) Also, how about the
> > > same for conjugation and declension?
> > >
> > > I also notice that you have included Warder's. We are looking at
> > > continuing the group study later this year. We finished the first
> > > third of the book in the previous run, and will work on the middle
> > > section this time. I hope you can join us then.
> > >
> > >
> > > metta,
> > > Yong Peng.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, grasje wrote:
> > >
> > > I use VriRomanPali DD, exept on the page for Warder, there I had to
> > > use Times Ext Roman. I copied the word lists from the internet, so I
> > > had to work with what I had. VriRomanPali DD is available on
many Pali
> > > sites, so I guess that most people have it already in their
available
> > > fonts.
> > >
> >
>