Dear Ria,

Years ago, I created an input easy file for all the vocabulary words
from Gair/Karunatillake's "New Course in REading Pali". I can extract
the chapters out to text files, combine into one file, convert to
velthuis, and put them into a spreadsheet for you.

With metta,
John

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "grasje" <grasje@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Yong Peng,
>
>
> Yes, I have adopted John's suggestion for Velthuis. Velthuis looks
> ugly but forces you to pay attention to the dots, lines and ~ symbols.
>
> I have no idea how to make something in javascript.
>
> But: If you look in the files under the directory jmemorise files, you
> will see 5 files: 4 vocabularies and one file for memorising the
> declension of masculine nouns in a. For the program itself see
> (http://jmemorize.org/). Today I have been working on a wordlist for
> conjugating verbs. (I am studying chapter 9 of the pali primer, about
> the -tva, and -tu.m, so I need to practice this part of the grammar.
> Amazing how much you pick up by making wordlists, even if you did not
> really practice yet). When I meet them in the lessons to come, there
> will undoubtably follow jmemorise files for other nouns ending in
> whatever letter they end.
>
> I ask you to WAIT A FEW (3) WEEKS, then you may host the sheet and the
> jmemorise files on tipitaka.net. I just found out that Warder
> recommends learning masculen nouns nouns ending a as if they ended in
> o (janako, maatulo), so you will easily remember the gender and the
> way the word declines. Neuter a-nouns should be learned ending in .m;
> (khetta.m). Etc. It is a very sound advice.
> I plan to rework the vocabularies (spreadsheet and Jmemorise files;
> dont't worry, I can let the spreadheet do this for me, I am not going
> to type it out) so the words end in the recommended letter. When I'm
> finished you can host the lists on tipitaka.net.
>
> I personally think the Jmemorise files are very handy, but I myself
> still need the spreasdheet to learn to type the words correctly.
> Jmemorise asks only to choose if you remembered a word correctly or
> not. Especially as a beginner it takes dedicated effort to make a
> difference between m and .m. For me, typing is essential and now I use
> both jmemorise and the spreadsheet. Spreadsheets can't be hosted, can
> they?
>
> My plans for the near future are:
> - Reworking the list for word-ending of nouns
> - making declension-of-verb-list (as I meet them during the study)
> - making listst for declensions of other nouns (as I meet them during
> the study)
> - In the last tab of the spreadsheet I have already added a list of
> the chapters of the pali primer and the elementary course (this is one
> of the differences between the seemingly similar files), in a logical
> order for learning. I still want to add references to that list to
> Duroiselles grammar, so students can read a bit explanation about the
> grammar rules they learn in the courses. ( but when I go through the
> study, my ideas about what is logical will change, I guess.)
> - go through the old postings and select the "beginners" questions,
> like the recent discussion on word order. Put them together in a
> word-file. A kind of question and answer-file.
>
> In this way I hope to gather the essential material for pali students
> who, like me, study at home by themselves. Rearranging existing
> material in a logical order for learning the language. I need it
> myself in order to make progress, and I am very happy to be able to
> share it with others.
>
> If you need lists reworked for Warder or the new pali course, I might
> be of some help. Right now I have skimmed through lesson 1-5 of Warder
> and decided to stay with the Pali primer and the elementary course. (I
> found the Warder vocabulary somewhere on the net, and I processed it
> to fit in the sheet and jmemorise files. whish I could find the
> vocabulary files of "a new course in reading pali". Or is that
> forbidden because of copyright troubles?. I don't think I can soon be
> of help in the translation exercises.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ria Glas
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Ong Yong Peng" <palismith@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Ria and John,
> >
> > thanks, Ria. It seems like you have adopted John's suggestion, and
> > now the pali words are all in velthuis. This is good, as it is still
> > easier to type in velthuis than in, say, unicode. However, now, there
> > seems to be 2 similar files in the system. ;-)
> >
> > This is a really admirable project, especially for those who want to
> > build up pali vocabulary fast. If you can do something similar in
> > javascript, I can host it on tipitaka.net. ;-) Also, how about the
> > same for conjugation and declension?
> >
> > I also notice that you have included Warder's. We are looking at
> > continuing the group study later this year. We finished the first
> > third of the book in the previous run, and will work on the middle
> > section this time. I hope you can join us then.
> >
> >
> > metta,
> > Yong Peng.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, grasje wrote:
> >
> > I use VriRomanPali DD, exept on the page for Warder, there I had to
> > use Times Ext Roman. I copied the word lists from the internet, so I
> > had to work with what I had. VriRomanPali DD is available on many Pali
> > sites, so I guess that most people have it already in their available
> > fonts.
> >
>