Dear Yong Peng,


Yes, I have adopted John's suggestion for Velthuis. Velthuis looks
ugly but forces you to pay attention to the dots, lines and ~ symbols.

I have no idea how to make something in javascript.

But: If you look in the files under the directory jmemorise files, you
will see 5 files: 4 vocabularies and one file for memorising the
declension of masculine nouns in a. For the program itself see
(http://jmemorize.org/). Today I have been working on a wordlist for
conjugating verbs. (I am studying chapter 9 of the pali primer, about
the -tva, and -tu.m, so I need to practice this part of the grammar.
Amazing how much you pick up by making wordlists, even if you did not
really practice yet). When I meet them in the lessons to come, there
will undoubtably follow jmemorise files for other nouns ending in
whatever letter they end.

I ask you to WAIT A FEW (3) WEEKS, then you may host the sheet and the
jmemorise files on tipitaka.net. I just found out that Warder
recommends learning masculen nouns nouns ending a as if they ended in
o (janako, maatulo), so you will easily remember the gender and the
way the word declines. Neuter a-nouns should be learned ending in .m;
(khetta.m). Etc. It is a very sound advice.
I plan to rework the vocabularies (spreadsheet and Jmemorise files;
dont't worry, I can let the spreadheet do this for me, I am not going
to type it out) so the words end in the recommended letter. When I'm
finished you can host the lists on tipitaka.net.

I personally think the Jmemorise files are very handy, but I myself
still need the spreasdheet to learn to type the words correctly.
Jmemorise asks only to choose if you remembered a word correctly or
not. Especially as a beginner it takes dedicated effort to make a
difference between m and .m. For me, typing is essential and now I use
both jmemorise and the spreadsheet. Spreadsheets can't be hosted, can
they?

My plans for the near future are:
- Reworking the list for word-ending of nouns
- making declension-of-verb-list (as I meet them during the study)
- making listst for declensions of other nouns (as I meet them during
the study)
- In the last tab of the spreadsheet I have already added a list of
the chapters of the pali primer and the elementary course (this is one
of the differences between the seemingly similar files), in a logical
order for learning. I still want to add references to that list to
Duroiselles grammar, so students can read a bit explanation about the
grammar rules they learn in the courses. ( but when I go through the
study, my ideas about what is logical will change, I guess.)
- go through the old postings and select the "beginners" questions,
like the recent discussion on word order. Put them together in a
word-file. A kind of question and answer-file.

In this way I hope to gather the essential material for pali students
who, like me, study at home by themselves. Rearranging existing
material in a logical order for learning the language. I need it
myself in order to make progress, and I am very happy to be able to
share it with others.

If you need lists reworked for Warder or the new pali course, I might
be of some help. Right now I have skimmed through lesson 1-5 of Warder
and decided to stay with the Pali primer and the elementary course. (I
found the Warder vocabulary somewhere on the net, and I processed it
to fit in the sheet and jmemorise files. whish I could find the
vocabulary files of "a new course in reading pali". Or is that
forbidden because of copyright troubles?. I don't think I can soon be
of help in the translation exercises.

Kind regards,

Ria Glas

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Ong Yong Peng" <palismith@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Ria and John,
>
> thanks, Ria. It seems like you have adopted John's suggestion, and
> now the pali words are all in velthuis. This is good, as it is still
> easier to type in velthuis than in, say, unicode. However, now, there
> seems to be 2 similar files in the system. ;-)
>
> This is a really admirable project, especially for those who want to
> build up pali vocabulary fast. If you can do something similar in
> javascript, I can host it on tipitaka.net. ;-) Also, how about the
> same for conjugation and declension?
>
> I also notice that you have included Warder's. We are looking at
> continuing the group study later this year. We finished the first
> third of the book in the previous run, and will work on the middle
> section this time. I hope you can join us then.
>
>
> metta,
> Yong Peng.
>
>
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, grasje wrote:
>
> I use VriRomanPali DD, exept on the page for Warder, there I had to
> use Times Ext Roman. I copied the word lists from the internet, so I
> had to work with what I had. VriRomanPali DD is available on many Pali
> sites, so I guess that most people have it already in their available
> fonts.
>