Lucky for the buddhist world you didn't become a monk and teach people to steal.Monks from sri lanka even refuse to photocopy books for me because it breaks the patimokha.I have deep respect for that.

Westerners need to learn what is dhamma.Sorry ,I have to say I have met many insane monks from the west.No way we can talk to them.

Robert Childers dict is sold as low as 2 usd in some stores.No one in this world are too poor to buy a copy even in Cambodia.Why download since the book was already reprinted at a very low price?

--- On Mon, 12/29/08, Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@...> wrote:
From: Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@...>
Subject: [Pali] Re: Saddaniiti
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, December 29, 2008, 12:17 PM











Dear Ong Keng Kee;



"...82 pounds is still affordable for Thai or Malaysians.. ."



No, you are wrong.



Around 250 baht is affordable in Thailand and will get a recently

published book sold ***and read*** by large numbers of people which

means it will have an effect on the way that large numbers of people

think and act. I do know of one bookstore that just got four copies of

a 1955 book still in stock in from England. Those books have been

sitting in the warehouse for half a century gathering dust. All books

should be accessible through public libraries for anyone to borrow

anywhere in the world and....academic journal articles published in

the west should be available for free, the western professors who

write them who do not get paid really should think about making their

knowledge as widely available as possible to the outside world, that

is if they are serious about their avocation as teachers, not prestige

accumulation from academic publication.



'...one more thing to add, the books was published 1928-66,it is not

even 90 years. So Jon please tell me what is copyright means for a

buddhist like you? You are a guy who has profound knowledge about

pali but no idea what is the basic precept?"



I have taught thousands of students in Thailand and if those students

have committed hundreds of copyright violations in the service of

knowledge good on them. They are good Buddhists and may they prosper

and learn despite people like you. You are wrong, dear Ong Keng Kee.

Thailand is not your country so you are not fit to speak of it.



With metta,

Jon Fernquest



--- In Pali@... com, Ong Teng Kee <ongtkee@... > wrote:

>

> one more thing to add, the books was published 1928-66,it is not

even 90 years .So Jon please tell me what is copyright means for a

buddhist like you?You are a guy who  has profound knowledge  about

pali but no idea what is the basic precept.?

> I can tell you 82 pounds is still affordable  for thai or

malaysians.If Jon you want to do dhamma dana just buy the books and

donate .

> Bye.

>

>  

>

> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, Ong Teng Kee <ongtkee@... > wrote:

> From: Ong Teng Kee <ongtkee@... >

> Subject: Re: [Pali] Re: Saddaniiti

> To: Pali@... com

> Received: Monday, December 29, 2008, 4:55 AM

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> If some publisher spend money to publish saddaniti,there

shouldn't be any more free download online.I think the price is not

too expensive.

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> I don't want to argue with Jon or anyone but please be reasonable.

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>  

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> --- On Sun, 12/28/08, Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@ yahoo. com> wrote:

>

>

>

> From: Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@ yahoo. com>

>

> Subject: [Pali] Re: Saddaniiti

>

> To: Pali@... com

>

> Received: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 12:23 AM

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> Dear George Bell;

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> Thanks for this translation.

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> "There may be people with old software who will need Velthuis"

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> Velthuis has the advantage that it can be quickly converted to

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> traditional PTS diacriticals with:

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> http://pali. sirimangalo. org/convertpad. htm

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> (Note: It looks like the original was an html web page.Some of the

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> special characters like ā sisn't come through right. If you sent

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> the web page, it could be posted and also printed as a pdf also.)

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> I keep links to the core set of Pali translation tools mentioned in

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> this list at:

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> http://delicious. com/search? context=userpost s&p=palitools&

lc=1&u=jonfernqu est

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> "...contain only a link to the web archive. That means you can

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> consult the book only when you are online"

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> You can definitely download and read on your computer. In fact, I have

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> printed several volumes of works from that site (archives.org) and

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> bound them in hardcover for a hundred baht or so in Bangkok.

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> In the list of works available the Dhatupatha and Dhatumanjusa on Pali

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> roots and the literal translation of Kaccayana by Senart and the

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> dictionary by Childers are real finds and finally what looks to be a

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> complete three volume set of Jatakas in ebook form. Will have to check

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> to see if archive.org has some mechanism for making requests, Helmut

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> Smith's Saddanitti published in the 1920s should be coming into the

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> public domain soon.

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> With metta,

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> Jon Fernquest

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