Dear Ong Teng Kee;

Did you actually read what I wrote?

Nothing in my message suggests that I am planning to break any law
law, American, Thai, or of any other country.

Which means plain and simple that you are being pugnacious and trying
to pick a fight which hardly seems very Buddhist itself.

Granted, most out-of-print books are photocopied in Thailand and also
expensive foreign volumes. And this may be a violation of American and
even world intellectual property laws. For most people it is either
this or not read the book. You may think this violates the precept
against stealing in Buddhism. I certainly do not. There is actually a
debate over intellectual property law and it is not carved in stone
for all time by any means. One recent academic paper (that I read for
free over the internet) suggests that there should be a **tax on
unused intellectual property** which would have the beneficial
side-effect of freeing up much of it and **prevent people from
hoarding intellectual property** as they do. Not hoarding intellectual
property could be considered an act of giving or Dana. I donate lots
of books. In fact, I got permission before I donated Justin McDaniel's
PhD dissertation to the Siam Society but I would still donate it with
or without permission and consider it an act of Dana, and I will
continue doing so.

With metta,
Jon Fernquest

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Ong Teng Kee <ongtkee@...> wrote:
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> one more thing to add, the books was published 1928-66,it is not
even 90 years .So Jon please tell me what is copyright means for a
buddhist like you?You are a guy who  has profound knowledge  about
pali but no idea what is the basic precept.?
> I can tell you 82 pounds is still affordable  for thai or
malaysians.If Jon you want to do dhamma dana just buy the books and
donate .
> Bye.
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> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, Ong Teng Kee <ongtkee@...> wrote:
> From: Ong Teng Kee <ongtkee@...>
> Subject: Re: [Pali] Re: Saddaniiti
> To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, December 29, 2008, 4:55 AM
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> If some publisher spend money to publish saddaniti,there
shouldn't be any more free download online.I think the price is not
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> I don't want to argue with Jon or anyone but please be reasonable.
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> --- On Sun, 12/28/08, Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@... com> wrote:
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> From: Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@... com>
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> Subject: [Pali] Re: Saddaniiti
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> To: Pali@... com
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> Received: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 12:23 AM
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> Dear George Bell;
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> Thanks for this translation.
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> "There may be people with old software who will need Velthuis"
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> (Note: It looks like the original was an html web page.Some of the
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> special characters like ā sisn't come through right. If you sent
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> the web page, it could be posted and also printed as a pdf also.)
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> I keep links to the core set of Pali translation tools mentioned in
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> "...contain only a link to the web archive. That means you can
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> consult the book only when you are online"
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> You can definitely download and read on your computer. In fact, I have
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> printed several volumes of works from that site (archives.org) and
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> In the list of works available the Dhatupatha and Dhatumanjusa on Pali
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> roots and the literal translation of Kaccayana by Senart and the
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> dictionary by Childers are real finds and finally what looks to be a
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> complete three volume set of Jatakas in ebook form. Will have to check
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> to see if archive.org has some mechanism for making requests, Helmut
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> Smith's Saddanitti published in the 1920s should be coming into the
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> With metta,
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> Jon Fernquest
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