Dear Piya,
thank you for the compliment. :-) Actually we see ourselves as neither lay nor monk, which is a unusual concept if you don't know Sangharakshitas (Founder of the FWBO) thinking. I'm certainly not a monk, don't follow the vinaya, and don't need to be called "Venerable". But we all, celibate and non-celibate Order members, have more than the five precepts. It's ten: three body-, four speech-, three mind-precepts.

Anyway, I don't think this is the place to discuss the relations between Buddhist Orders. Thank you, Nina, for your input. Im getting more and more fond of going to the Pali sources, and I am sure this newsgroup will be a great help to it.

Yours in the Dharma
Sraddhabandhu

--- Piya Tan <dharmafarer@...> schrieb am Di, 16.9.2008:
Von: Piya Tan <dharmafarer@...>
Betreff: Re: [Pali] abhippamodati?
An: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Dienstag, 16. September 2008, 3:37











Nina,



:) Sraddhabandhu is actually a layman, but I'm sure he is venerable.



The Western Buddhist Order has both celibate and non-celibate members.



Piya



On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Nina van Gorkom <vangorko@... nl> wrote:



> Dear Venerable Sraddhabandhu,

> Op 14-sep-2008, om 16:46 heeft sraddhabandhu het volgende geschreven:

>

> > At the moment I give very short talks concerning anapanasati. In the

> > 10th step it says "'abhippamodaya. m citta.m". I guess "abhi" means

> > "highest" and "ppamodati" is the adjective proper. Has it anything to

> > do with "pamojja" (skt. pramodya)?

> ------

> pamojja: delight, gladness. The tenth step, perhaps meant is what the

> Visuddhimagga quotes:

> < As regards the words in the third tetrad: "(X) I shall breathe

> in...breathe out gladdening the (manner of) consciousness" , the

> Visuddhimagga (VIII, 231) states that there is gladdening in two

> ways, namely through concentration and through insight.>

>

> Nina.

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