Dear Friends
Specifically Kha is related to `one's environment'(probably
K.R.Norman),One's space'. Maybe even relates to `Aura'.the physical
energy that surrounds the body.
While, funny enough. This is a reference to the mind, the may we
say, `non Physical brain'
Mana' the ignorant man constant thinking is by Comparing
himself with others, asmi mana is conceit and maana is measuring.
Du Manasa relates specifically to depression, which is only one facet
of Dhuka.

probably even NamaRupa may relate to the reality that is experienced
as Mind and Brain, since the body, and Physical reality, is truly the
experience related to the Physical brain, only by extention, we
think, or there is in this conditioned view of the body.
This is per se, when the Buddha says `There is a body' Atthi Kayo.
We are faced with a reality, undeniable experience.
So this is again an example of the Indian mind set. And the vital
necessity to see the
Circumstances of the lessons, much in the way a Sutta lesson, should
be seen at it's context, the wider, and the specific one.

any way I like to think about the logical way this highly idiomatic
language forms.
Based on simple, logical conventions of speech and common
understanding,
Often the Pali translation is difficult not only in grammatical
terms but possibly in deeper rooted convictions, maybe it boils down
too, eventually to our view of a `self',

It's a little beside the point, and may look pretentious and high,
but there this example Of the quantum mechanics Theory
Quantum mechanics taught us that there is no objective point of view,
no observer that is outside the system, it is, I think, easy to see
the Buddhist relevance of it, as the
`not self' characteristic of existence. Anatta.

Consciousness is a biological necessity and responds accordingly,
with the necessary self deceit and profit seeking.
No truth but seeing this very process.

The meaning of Nibbana is just this `stopping of the game', resting
from the universal laws of desire, hatred and delusion which push us
to participate in the formation of further actions, preparations and
intentions Sankhara.
This process-game' is based on our ignorance to the fact that there
is no entity, point of view, absolute reality which is `Me'

Our binding action starts by desire, longing, which, because of
ignorance make us believe in the possibility of real satisfaction,
real realization in this world or beyond it, as religious
gratification.

Now this is a dangerous point and must it be understood that there is
no place for nihilism, destructive psychological tendencies and so
on, it is simply often beyond our capacity to face the void, the
emotional emptiness which is the basic nature of reality, existence,
the world.
so we often run, with the encouragement of an ego mental protection,
in to illusion, a religion , taking side on order to belong..

materialism too is making for a philosophy, a belief, even the
Atheist.
attachment to logic, a view of a future hope of success.
science, though taking the quantum opportuinity per se, is not
manifesting a belief in the passive freedom that is opened up, it
cannot function that way, it remains the tool of progress and greed.

This is not bad; it's actually a social reality.
But truth can be experienced and realized, it may need training, as
it rises only at the space that is created by inner quietude,
serenity, peacefulness.
I think the use of the word `space' is most satisfactory.

Su Kha is happiness, mental exhilaration that contains physical or
mental feeling.
Both can be experienced as a bodily experience.
But the duality su/du
may also relate to `the bad path' the un wholesome way which stands
in relation to the Eight fold path (see M.N. 117).
While here the idea of Samma is crucial.

Nibbana, by reality and definition, is `the cessation of the causes
of the bad' The simple denial of the cause, not `happy or `sad'.

It relates to a mind attitude, feeling, reality circumstances and
above all, to rebirth, re enactment of existence in illusion, life.

Equanimity is quite close, but it lacks the Quantum! leap of the
light which has a quality of Metta, the active avoidance of
attachment, which , in relation to a 'self' is 'other' Anna.

`Since Nibbana exists, the way to develop it is the only wisdom'.
Hence Buddhism,
but simply, understanding this Can be, must be, implemented as part
of any world view,
it's easy to see the case above as relating to one worldly way, but
religion, even in a
clearer fashion should be a base for the Dhamma.
the Buddha himself has accepted the old Indian gods.
the Tibetans , too, has Idam, a personal god, a protector of the
search for the Dhamma.
.Sri lankan have gods to refer to when trouble (the chief one is
Kataragama, the residence, the name of the town here)
The Jewish Shekhina' is similar, I think it is presence', or the
Indian concept of Shakti, the power, presence, manifestation, female
side of the various gods.
This is advanced theology, too much actually.
It may be any chosen god of belief, why not?

But a belief that negates the quantum is a wrong view which lead to
suffering…
No god is this eternal point, the causeless cause, whatever the
religious imaginations like to make of their traditional, past based
yearnings.

Now there is the presence of the path, that means the right way.
The preliminary thought may be connected to belief, faith, which is a
good place to start, but not necessarily, not, as we show, as a
matter of taking sides, but a personal,
Lonely often, experience of the consequences of truth,

Sorry, I was writing a sermon when I saw the letter, so it all came
out like that..
I meant to elaborate more about the linguistic aspect, as you see,
amateurism may sometimes be an advantage.

I also find, in order to fully engulf some unnecessary conventions,
it may be helpful to
See some ideas of later Buddhist schools, and even of the Indian
sphere.

Metta
Jothiko

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Ong Yong Peng" <pali.smith@...> wrote:
>
> Bhante,
>
> your analysis of dukkha is interesting. I have never understood the
> word that way. Can you elaborate more, and can we apply similar
> analysis to sukha? Thanks.
>
>
> metta,
> Yong Peng.
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, joseph wrote:
>
> Du Kha actually means bad space, it is in relation to the actual
brain
> space, the embodiment of a personal mind, and I use the words in the
> most conventional way. so actually, it simply means bad, trouble,
if
> you look at the definition, it is simply that life is trouble, not
> pessimistic or nihilistic, the understanding is such.
>