Hi;

Perhaps the Dvedhavitakka Sutta (Two Sorts of Thinking) is a nice
outline of the relationship between calm and insight?

It shows a gradual path of directing the mind at beneficial questions
as a positive feedback loop leading to enlightenment?

metta

palitechguy

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Piya Tan" <dharmafarer@...> wrote:
>
> Dear PG,
>
> My point is that there is no meditation by such a name in the Suttas.
> It is so called
> in the Commentaries and later times. Vipassana refers to "wisdom", as
> such it is not a meditation in itself.
>
> However, I have no problem with the modern usage, as it
> is a particular approach to meditation, which can be useful for some
people.
>
> I have discussed some this further in in my article on
> Bhavana (SD 15.1)
>
> Metta,
>
> Piya
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM, P G Dave <pgd2507@...> wrote:
> > Dear Piya Tan,
> >
> > On pg. 14 of your paper I noticed the following words:
> > *"Vipassanâ" meditation (if there is such a meditation)"*
> > Does the qualification in brackets "if there is such a
meditation" indicate
> > that the term "vipassanâ meditation" is a mis-nomer...
> >
> > Kindly explain.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > with metta,
> > PG
> > ______________________________________
> >
> >
> > On 4/25/08, Piya Tan <dharmafarer@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Jon and friends,
> > >
> > > Glad you found the Sutta useful. As long as we keep promoting
the Suttas,
> > > there are good chances that more people would have access to
the Buddha's
> > > Teachings "as is".
> > >
> > > The scholar's Buddhism is fine, too, but I like my Dharma plain
and early.
> > >
> > > I normally use Time Extended Romans, which should be installed in
> > > C:/Windows/Fonts
> > >
> > > if you don't have them.
> > >
> > > However, if the PDF works well, then it's fine.
> > >
> > > WIth metta,
> > >
> > > Piya Tan
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Jon Fernquest
<bayinnaung@...<bayinnaung%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Piya Tan;
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for that paper.
> > > > It's great.
> > > > I had problems with the fonts on previous
> > > > ones, but this one, no problems at all.
> > > >
> > > > It's hard to get references, review, and bibliography of
scholarly
> > > > work like this.
> > > >
> > > > With metta,
> > > > Jon Fernquest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com <Pali%40yahoogroups.com>, "Piya Tan"
> >
> >
> > > <dharmafarer@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear PG,
> > > > >
> > > > > What you seek is found here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://dighanikaya.googlepages.com/D16_Mahaparinibbana_S_sd9.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > See page 13-14 (section 6).
> > > > >
> > > > > With metta,
> > > > >
> > > > > Piya Tan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:38 PM, pgd2507 <pgd2507@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear learned dhamma and pali scholars,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So karohi diipam attano
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have seen this line translated in 2 ways:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Make an island unto yourself.
> > > > > > Make a lamp unto yourself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > which of these did the Buddha intend?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the sanskrit words are distinct:
> > > > > > dviipa = island
> > > > > > diipa = lamp
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but in pali both these words seem to converge to "diipa".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is there some help either contextual or from another part
of the
> > > > > > canon that can resolve this...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > metta,
> > > > > > PG
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Minding Centre
> > > > > Blk 644 Bukit Batok Central #01-68 (2nd flr)
> > > > > Singapore 650644
> > > > > Tel: 8211 0879
> > > > > Meditation courses & therapy:
http://themindingcentre.googlepages.com
> > > > > Website: dharmafarer.googlepages.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Minding Centre
> > > Blk 644 Bukit Batok Central #01-68 (2nd flr)
> > > Singapore 650644
> > > Tel: 8211 0879
> > > Meditation courses & therapy:
http://themindingcentre.googlepages.com
> > > Website: dharmafarer.googlepages.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > Paa.li-Parisaa - The Pali Collective
> > [Homepage] http://www.tipitaka.net
> > [Files] http://www.geocities.com/paligroup/
> > [Send Message] pali@yahoogroups.com
> > Yahoo! Groups members can set their delivery options to daily
digest or web only.Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> The Minding Centre
> Blk 644 Bukit Batok Central #01-68 (2nd flr)
> Singapore 650644
> Tel: 8211 0879
> Meditation courses & therapy: http://themindingcentre.googlepages.com
> Website: dharmafarer.googlepages.com
>