Thanks Jim,
Thanks gives some direction in why the DAT says what it said:
Niddasa is taken (playfully I think) taken as "ni + dasa" = "not 10" as it
also
mentions nibbiiso etc, meaning that it is not the number of years that makes
a senior monk *niddasa,* but his realization.
Thanks.
Piya Tan
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Jim Anderson <
jimanderson_on@...>
wrote:
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com <Pali%40yahoogroups.com>, "Piya Tan"
> <dharmafarer@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Jim, John (or anyone else),
>
> >
> > What does this sentence mean?
> >
> > *Niddasavatthnii ti aadi-saddalopenaaya.m niddeso ti *(DAT 3:334)
>
> Dear Piya,
>
> The above is only part of the passage we need to know (btw, -vatthnii
> ti should read vatthuunii ti).
>
> Niddasavatthuunii ti aadi-saddalopenaaya.m niddeso ti aaha
> niddasaadivatthuunii ti.
>
> means:
> "niddasavatthuuni": because this is a description with elision of the
> word "aadi" he said "niddasaadivatthuuni".
>
> > *Aadi-sadda-lopa*: this is surely a grammatical term. Do the ancient
> > grammars mention it? What does this mean?
>
> P.G. Dave has explained the elision of the middle part in a Sanskrit
> compound. 'saddalopa' is a grammatical term but I don't yet know of
> its use in the ancient Pali grammars. 'sadda' can refer to letters, a
> word, or any other linguistic item. The modern Pali grammar called
> the Niruttidiipanii by the late Ledi Sayadaw mentions padalopa at the
> end of sutta 33 which I think touches on your passage. Here it is:
>
> padalopo aadimajjhantesu -- datto=devadatto, assehi yutto
> ratho=assaratho, ruupabhavo=ruupa.m, aruupabhavo=aruupa.m iccaadi.
>
> "niddasavatthuuni" would be an example of majjhepadalopa
> like "assaratho". More examples are given in the section on
> tatiyatappurisa.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jim
>
>
>
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