Sotthi bhavatu,

Tva.m Paali,bhaasa.m jaanasi?

Bhavantaana.m vissaasiko

Hasena ca mittena ca,

Si.mha,pure Piyo

On Feb 3, 2008 9:40 AM, Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@...> wrote:

> Ven. Piya Tan wrote: "(Anyone still thinking of conversing in Pali :)
>
> But, no, we still could."
>
> First us neophytes need to become familiar with useful phrases.
> And then write some dialogues so that people can gain familiarity.
> Edited and monitored by an experienced Pali reader.
>
> Simple dialogues would be useful for fluency building.
>
> There must be a copy of "Aids to Pali Conversation" somewhere in
> Thailand. I can find it and then start posting to a blog, phrase of
> the day from the book. Someone who is still a beginner in Pali can
> only cite the work of others like this.
>
> There must be dialogues of a more casual sort that can be extracted
> from works such as the Dhammapada Commentary (which i notice has
> always been prominent in Pali exams) and presented, in addition to the
> usual more philosophical abstruse and weighty monologues of the Suttas.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jon Fernquest
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com <Pali%40yahoogroups.com>, "Piya Tan"
> <dharmafarer@...> wrote:
> >
> > Decades back, as a monk, I remember reading the Pali Bible, and feeling
> > deeply
> > joyful at the Pali, but not what is thrusted upon it. It's like
> pasting a
> > copy of Hieronymus
> > Bosch onto a beautiful Chinese nature line-painting, or blowing a
> trumpet in
> > a
> > sensitive rendition of sitar music!
>
> >
> > In a sense, we can say that a language is heavily influenced by the
> message
> > it
> > habitually carries. Pali, being a language specially put together to
> pass on
> > the
> > Dharma, is thoroughly coloured by it.
> >
> > Similarly English is often deeply coloured by Christianity, but since
> > English is a
> > living language, it is constantly evolving. Pali has attained
> nirvana as it
> > were, so
> > it is unlike to undergo much change, if any! (Anyone still thinking of
> > conversing in
> > Pali :) But, no, we still could.
> >
> > The upadhi-struck minds of some Christians never cease to amaze me.
> They are
> > as appropriative as ever. In Singapore, it is not uncommon to see
> permanent
> > banners outside churches, shouting: "Jesus is Lord" and there is a "City
> > Harvest
> > Church" promising prosperity to believers. So we are sheep to the
> Shepherd,
> > fishes for the Fisher of men.
> >
> > The Buddha: "let go, and you will be free!"
> >
> > With metta and mudita,
> >
> > Piya Tan
> >
> > On Feb 2, 2008 10:13 PM, Gunnar Gällmo <gunnargallmo@...> wrote:
> >
> > > --- George Bedell <gdbedell@... <gdbedell%40yahoo.com>> skrev:
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gunnar,
> > > >
> > > > In your Paliforum post of 1/27, you mentioned 'the
> > > > Pali Bible'. After some investigation online, I
> > > > found reference to a New Testament in Burmese script
> > > > attributed to Tolfrey and de Thomas and published in
> > > > Colombo in 1835. Is this the one you were referring
> > > > to? Whether it is or not, do you have any idea how
> > > > to obtain a copy? I would appreciate any
> > > > information.
> > >
> > > Actually, I don't know any details; I have heard
> > > several times that either the Bible, or perhaps only
> > > the New Testament, have been translated into Pali to
> > > convert bhikkhus. I have also heard that this
> > > translation have given some knowledgeable bhikkhus a
> > > great joy, but of a quite different kind than the one
> > > intended.
> > >
> > > I have heard similar stories about other Bible
> > > translations (such a choosing the wrong synonym for
> > > "love"...)
> > >
> > > Some Christians tend to boast about how many languages
> > > the Bible has been translated into. I always wished to
> > > know how many of these translations are of an
> > > acceptable quality - but I suppose there's no-one who
> > > could check that.
> > >
> > > Gunnar
> > >
> > > http://metrobloggen.se/esperanto
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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