Dear Jim,

What about CI + tra? Where "ci" (to heap up) has to do with accumulating
(from which we get cetiya (a pile heaped up; a shrine); and "tra"
(instrument?),
as in mantra?

Does any ancient grammar explain it in this way?

Metta,

Piya


On Jan 23, 2008 3:58 AM, Jim Anderson <jimanderson_on@...> wrote:

> Dear Mahipaliha,
>
> I'm rather doubtful of taking the 'ra' of 'citra' to be a suffix.
> Have you considered the possibility of the adjective 'citta'
> (variegated, spotted) being derived from the Pali verbal root 'citt'
> (to make a picture or wonder) ? This root is listed and explained in
> the Saddaniiti as follows:
>
> citta cittakara.ne, kadaaci dassanepi. cittakara.na.m
> vicittabhaavakara.na.m. citteti, cittayati. citta.m. (from CSCD 3)
>
> There is the corresponding Skt. root 'citr'. For 'citta' derived
> from 'cit' (to think) the suffix is 'ta' and can be found in the
> U.naadikappa of Kaccaayanabyaakara.na (Kacc 656 Burmese numbering).
> The explanation of this from its vutti is:
>
> aaramma.na.m cintetiiti citta.m, citra.m. cintenti
> sampayuttadhammaa etenaati vaa citta.m, citra.m.
>
> The sutta deals with the u.naadi suffixes 'ta' and 'tra'. In the same
> vutti 'mettaa' (recently discussed on this list) is explained among
> other like words having the same suffixes as:
>
> midati sinehati etaayaati mettaa, metraa.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jim
>
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com <Pali%40yahoogroups.com>, "mahipaliha"
> <mahipal6@...> wrote:
> >
> > Reverting (though belatedly) to the discussion of the compound word
> > citta-gu, I would like to clarify why I said citta - in this word
> > is not a past participle. It is always helpful to look at the
> > corresponding Sanskrit word to understand how a Pali word is formed.
> > (They say Sanskrit is a transparent language: you can often clearly
> > see the different elements that go to make up a word - prefixes,
> > root, suffixes etc.) The Skt equivalent of Pali citta is citra. The
> > two elements are cit- and -ra. The suffix is -ra, which is not used
> > to form past participles. PPs are formed with the suffixes -ta
> and -
>
>
>



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