Ven Yuttadhammo,

I often consult the Vism, but I would first check to see if the Suttas have
the word or
concept first. They are like a book (Suttas) and a pair of spectacles
(Vism).

Even if I do not have my spectacles, I can still beneift from the book, but
the spectacles
would not be so useful without the book :)

Best wishes in your coming exams.

With metta,

Piya

On Nov 22, 2007 1:52 PM, Noah Yuttadhammo <yuttadhammo@...>
wrote:

> At 22 Nov 2007 09:20:07 +0800 Piya Tan wrote:
> > Ven Yuttadhammo,
> >
> > Thanks for the Vism def of upaayaasa. What about Sutta definitions of
> it?
> > It would be very interesting and helpful to know what the Buddha or the
> > early
> > arhats have to say on this.
> >
>
> Dear Piya,
>
> I thought the Vism would be the best way to know what the Buddha or early
> arahants had to say on the matter, but I can understand the scepticism.
>
> Here's some canonical qutes to back up the Vism. quote. Still nothing on
> grammar, afaics:
>
> DN 2.9.16, Paragraph 9
>
> ``katamo ca, bhikkhave, upaayaaso? yo kho, bhikkhave,
> a~n~natara~n~natarena byasanena samannaagatassa a~n~natara~n~natarena
> dukkhadhammena phu.t.thassa aayaaso upaayaaso aayaasitatta.m
> upaayaasitatta.m, aya.m vuccati, bhikkhave, upaayaaso.
>
> MN 1.1.32, Paragraph 9
>
> 128. ``katamo ca, bhikkhave, upaayaaso? yo kho, bhikkhave,
> a~n~natara~n~natarena byasanena samannaagatassa a~n~natara~n~natarena
> dukkhadhammena phu.t.thassa aayaaso upaayaaso aayaasitatta.m
> upaayaasitatta.m, aya.m vuccati, bhikkhave, upaayaaso.
>
> MN 2.1.4, Paragraph 9
>
> 39. ```akkodhuupaayaasa.m nissaaya kodhuupaayaaso pahaatabbo'ti iti kho
> paneta.m vutta.m, ki~nceta.m pa.ticca vutta.m? idha, gahapati,
> ariyasaavako iti pa.tisa~ncikkhati -- `yesa.m kho aha.m sa.myojanaana.mhetu kodhuupaayaasii
> assa.m, tesaaha.m sa.myojanaana.m pahaanaaya samucchedaaya pa.tipanno.
> aha~nceva kho pana kodhuupaayaasii assa.m, attaapi ma.m upavadeyya
> kodhuupaayaasapaccayaa V2.0028, anuviccaapi ma.m vi~n~nuu garaheyyu.mkodhuupaayaasapaccayaa, kaayassa bhedaa
> para.m mara.naa duggati paa.tika"nkhaa kodhuupaayaasapaccayaa. etadeva kho
> pana sa.myojana.m eta.m niivara.na.m yadida.m kodhuupaayaaso. ye ca
> kodhuupaayaasapaccayaa uppajjeyyu.m aasavaa vighaatapari.laahaa,
> akkodhuupaayaasissa T2.0040 eva.msa te aasavaa vighaatapari.laahaa na
> honti'. `akkodhuupaayaasa.m nissaaya kodhuupaayaaso pahaatabbo'ti -- iti
> yanta.m vutta.m idameta.m pa.ticca vutta.m.
>
> MN 2.2.7, Paragraph 6
>
> 162. ``katama~nca, bhikkhave, uumibhaya.m? idha, bhikkhave, ekacco
> kulaputto saddhaa agaarasmaa anagaariya.m pabbajito hoti -- `oti.n.nomhi
> jaatiyaa jaraaya mara.nena sokehi paridevehi dukkhehi domanassehi
> upaayaasehi dukkhoti.n.no dukkhapareto; appeva naama imassa kevalassa
> dukkhakkhandhassa antakiriyaa pa~n~naayethaa'ti. tamena.m tathaa
> pabbajita.m samaana.m sabrahmacaarii ovadanti, anusaasanti -- `eva.m te
> abhikkamitabba.m, eva.m te pa.tikkamitabba.m, eva.m te aalokitabba.m,
> eva.m te vilokitabba.m, eva.m te sami~njitabba.m, eva.m te pasaaritabba.m,
> eva.m te sa"nghaa.tipattaciivara.m dhaaretabba'nti. tassa eva.m hoti --
> `maya.m kho pubbe agaariyabhuutaa samaanaa a~n~ne ovadaama, anusaasaama
> {ovadaamapi anusaasaamapi (sii0 syaa0 ka.m0 pii0)}. ime panamhaaka.mputtamattaa ma~n~ne, nattamattaa ma~n~ne, amhe {
> eva.m (ka0)} ovaditabba.m T2.0199 anusaasitabba.m ma~n~nantii'ti. so
> sikkha.m paccakkhaaya hiinaayaavattati. aya.m vuccati, bhikkhave,
> uumibhayassa bhiito sikkha.m paccakkhaaya hiinaayaavatto. `uumibhaya'nti
> kho, bhikkhave, kodhupaayaasasseta.m adhivacana.m.
>
> SN 3.1.9.2, Paragraph 10
>
> ``upamaa kho myaaya.m, tissa, kataa atthassa vi~n~naapanaaya. aya.mcevettha attho -- `puriso amaggakusalo'ti kho, tissa,
> puthujjanasseta.m adhivacana.m. `puriso maggakusalo'ti kho, tissa,
> tathaagatasseta.m adhivacana.m arahato sammaasambuddhassa.
> `dvedhaapatho'ti kho, tissa, vicikicchaayeta.m adhivacana.m P3.0109.
> `vaamo maggo'ti kho, tissa, a.t.tha"ngikasseta.m micchaamaggassa
> adhivacana.m, seyyathida.m -- micchaadi.t.thiyaa...pe0...
> micchaasamaadhissa. `dakkhi.no maggo'ti kho, tissa, ariyasseta.m a.t.tha"ngikassa
> maggassa adhivacana.m, seyyathida.m -- sammaadi.t.thiyaa...pe0...
> sammaasamaadhissa. `tibbo vanasa.n.do'ti kho, tissa, avijjaayeta.m
> adhivacana.m. `mahanta.m ninna.m pallala'nti kho, tissa, kaamaanameta.m
> adhivacana.m. `sobbho papaato'ti kho, tissa, kodhuupaayaasasseta.m
> adhivacana.m. `samo bhuumibhaago rama.niiyo'ti kho, tissa, nibbaanasseta.m
> adhivacana.m. abhirama, tissa, abhirama, tissa! ahamovaadena
> ahamanuggahena ahamanusaasaniyaa''ti {ahamaamisadhammaanuggahena mamovaadena
> mamaanusaasaniyaati (ka0)}.
>
> AN 3.1.3.5, Paragraph 1
>
> 25. ``tayome V1.0147, bhikkhave, puggalaa santo sa.mvijjamaanaa lokasmi.m
> P1.0124. katame tayo? arukuupamacitto puggalo, vijjuupamacitto puggalo,
> vajiruupamacitto puggalo. katamo ca, bhikkhave, arukuupamacitto puggalo?
> idha, bhikkhave, ekacco puggalo kodhano hoti upaayaasabahulo appampi
> M1.0122 vutto T1.0156 samaano abhisajjati kuppati byaapajjati
> patitthiiyati kopa~nca dosa~nca appaccaya~nca paatukaroti. seyyathaapi,
> bhikkhave, du.t.thaaruko {du.t.thaarukaa (sii0)} ka.t.thena vaa
> ka.thalaaya {kathalaaya (syaa0 ka.m0 ka0), ka.thalena-kathalena (
> a.t.thakathaa)} vaa gha.t.tito {gha.t.titaa (sii0)} bhiyyosomattaaya
> aasava.m deti {assavanoti (sii0)}; evameva.m kho, bhikkhave, idhekacco
> puggalo kodhano hoti upaayaasabahulo appampi vutto samaano abhisajjati
> kuppati byaapajjati patitthiiyati kopa~nca dosa~nca appaccaya~nca
> paatukaroti. aya.m vuccati, bhikkhave, arukuupamacitto puggalo.
>
> KN 14.10.2, Paragraph 19
>
> aasa"ngii bahupaayaaso, tasmaa kodha.m na rocaye..
>
> KN 18.1.2.1, Paragraph 135
>
> tattha katamo upaayaaso? ~naatibyasanena vaa phu.t.thassa, bhogabyasanena
> vaa phu.t.thassa, rogabyasanena vaa phu.t.thassa, siilabyasanena vaa
> phu.t.thassa, di.t.thibyasanena vaa phu.t.thassa, a~n~natara~n~natarena
> byasanena samannaagatassa, a~n~natara~n~natarena M0.0038 dukkhadhammena
> phu.t.thassa aayaaso T1.0056 upaayaaso aayaasanaa upaayaasanaa
> aayaasitatta.m upaayaasitatta.m -- aya.m vuccati upaayaaso.
>
> KN 21.1.5, Paragraph 49
>
> tayo aggii -- aya.m upaayaaso.
>
> Abhi 2.6.1., Paragraph 24
>
> 241. tattha katamo upaayaaso? ~naatibyasanena vaa phu.t.thassa,
> bhogabyasanena vaa phu.t.thassa, rogabyasanena vaa phu.t.thassa,
> siilabyasanena vaa phu.t.thassa, di.t.thibyasanena vaa phu.t.thassa,
> a~n~natara~n~natarena byasanena samannaagatassa, a~n~natara~n~natarena
> dukkhadhammena phu.t.thassa aayaaso upaayaaso aayaasitatta.m
> upaayaasitatta.m -- aya.m vuccati ``upaayaaso''.
>
> Sorry, no translations! I have exams in 4 days.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Yuttadhammo (Phra Noah)
>
>

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