Dear Sir

As far as my knowledge in Pali canon is concerned, bhikkus always
called Buddha, "Bagava". There is no reference where anyone calling
Buddha guru or yogi. Bagava is translated to English as "Venerable
Sir". Top Pali scholars like Nina could eliminate us on this issue.

Thanks

Ruwan

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Lotsawanet" <lotsawanet@...> wrote:
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> Dear Yong Peng and Nina.
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> I have been studying the meaning of yogi in Buddhist tradition, its
relation
> with the term bhikku and guru, as in the culture and time where
Buddha born,
> it was used this term to designate the ascetics in that time.
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> I did not find the term yogi in the pali texts until now, but I did
find the
> term yogavacaro.
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> Does it have a definition? In wich context we found this term?
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> Does it designate a bhikku?
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> As we know that in the hindu tradition the teachers are called
gurus also in
> the time of Buddha, does the buddhist teachers including Buddha
himself were
> called in this way?
> Is there in the pali canon references about this?
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> I found the following passage in pali canon mentioned in a book:
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> "Yogavacaro panca indriya ni avikkhepe patitthapeti..."
> (Patisambhida. 1.4.4.17.62).
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> Does it verify? What would be the translation of it?
> The term vacaro seems to mean "person", so in the term yogavacaro,
is seems
> to mean "a person [who practice] yoga", or "a yoga practioner".
> As for "panca indriya", it seems to mean the "five Indryas" or "the
five
> [acts of control of mind through] rules".
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> There are five indriya.
> They are: 1. Saddhindriya (faith and confidence)
> 2. Viriyindriya (enthusiasm and perseverance)
> 3. Satindriya (the setting up of the mind)
> 4. Samadhindriya (the training in Samadhi)
> 5. Pannadriya. (the training in panna)
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> I think the phrase is showing a relation with the "yogavacaro" with
this
> practices, or it is indicating that a "yogavacaro" is endowed with
the
> attainments of this trainings.
> Is that right?
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> I could not find the meaning of the following words in any pali
dictionary -
> avikkhepe patitthapeti...
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> Thanks since now for any suggestion and help.
> Gabriel
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