I have started a Yahoo Group on the 8 Worldly Conditions
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/8WorldlyConcerns

My main interest is the translation of ayasa or lack of fame. This has
been translated as:

obscurity
shame
disgrace
dishonor
bad reputation
insignificance

I'd appreciate some discussion on what ayasa means.

I also posted this query to the E-Sangha Pali Forum:
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/index.php?showtopic=40709&

Thanks / Antony.