Hi Tzungkuen,

> Many thanks for your reply.
> The message you sent is still a mass, but we could tell which Pali
passage in Visuddhimagga you're reffering to .

I have no idea why all the spaces in my post were changed to
gibberish; the post was written in the same way that I always do. :-(

>In The Path of Purification, XXII, 22, page 700, there is passage
describing how a stream-enterer attains the second fruit. It mentions
no udayabbaya~naa.na, but 'vipassanaaviithi.m ogaahati' is said. Could
it be possible that this passage is what Mahasi Sayadaw had in his mind?

Yes, I think this would be complementary to the one I posted. Teachers
of the Mahasi method claim that when a sotaapanna strives for the
higher paths and fruits he skips the first three ~naa.nas, for these
are already present in every ~naa.nasampayutta citta.

Best wishes (and apologies if this post also comes out as gibberish).

Dhammanando