Hi Nina and Ole,

Thanks for your replies. So it seems, until further information,
likely that 'dabba' is indeed not a Theravada abhidhamma term, and
stands as a distinctive difference from the Sarvastivada in this respect.

metta

Bhante Sujato

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Ole Holten Pind" <oleholtenpind@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Bhante,
>
> The word denotes any given substance like in Sanskrit. I have hardly
ever
> come across it except in grammatical literature. So far I have not
seen the
> word in the context of sabhaava "essential nature." I may be wrong,
though.
> I would appreciate references. In early sources is it a gotta name:
dabba
> mallaputta, if I remember correctly.
>
> Regards,
> Ole Holten Pind
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a snippet of an old conversation between myself and Nina:
>
> > It
> > > > seems clear enough that the Sarvastivadins went further than the
> > > > Theravadins; they frequently used the word 'dravya'
> > (Pali 'dabba'?),
> > > > meaning 'substance' in reference to the svabhava, while i am not
> > > > aware of that term in the Theravada.
> > > N: I meet this term all the time in the Visuddhimagga. I do not
> > see any
> > > substance implied, it is just a distinctive nature, but only very
> > momentary.
> > > Close to the meaning of characteristic.
>
> I have just been discussing this point with Rupert Gethin, who
> believes that the term 'dabba', while occuring occasionally in
> non-technical senses, does not occur with as a technical term in the
> Theravadin abhidhamma. Can Nina or anyone else point me to any
> technical uses of 'dabba' in Theravada abhidhamma?
>
> in Dhamma
>
> Bhante Sujato
>
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