Hi,

I think the hypothesis by E.J.Thomas is highly possible. If the
Buddha's racial appearance was closer to the Indo-Aryans, it was
unlikely being pejoratively called Vasala in a very contemptuous
manner. Also, even those Kingdoms of the Himalayan tribes at that
time adapted the Indo-Aryan culture, such as practising the Aryan
languages, religion, and caste system, were not necessarily
belonging to the Indo-Aryans.

Regards,

Thomas Law

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Jacques Huynen <jhuynen@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I remember that E.J.Thomas, already quoted, alludes to
> the hypothesis according to which at the time of the
> Buddha, dominant clans of Himalayan tribes were given
> the status of Khattiya by the Indo-Aryans. That might
> be what happened with the Sakya if these were
> "Himalayans" rather than Aryans.
>
> Happy Wesak to all,
>
> May all beings be released from suffering and reach
> Nibbâna,
>
> Jacques Huynen
>
> --- thomaslaw03 <thomaslaw03@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think at that time a kshatriya (khattiya) is not
> > necessary
> > belonging to an Aryan. For example, the kingdom of
> > Videha (capital
> > city: Mithila) whose people are not Aryans.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thomas Law
> >
> > --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Jacques Huynen
> > <jhuynen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I agree with Dmytrio. There is no such thing as
> > > Nepali racial features since Nepal is precisely
> > the
> > > meeting ground of the "indo-european" and
> > "mongoloïd"
> > > stock. It seems it was already the case at the
> > time of
> > > the Buddha (cf E.J. Thomas, The Life of the
> > Buddha,
> > > Legend and History). But since the Buddha is
> > > considered by all source as a kshatriya
> > (khattiya),
> > > the second highest aryan cast or varna, he must
> > have
> > > been of indo-european stock, especially if one
> > > considers that at that early period there wasn't
> > yet
> > > much mixing between the two stocks as was going to
> > > happen later when some invaders from Central Asia
> > were
> > > given the status of Kshatriya to become the
> > present
> > > days Rajputs.
> > >
> > > Jacques Huynen
> > >
> > > --- "Dmytro O. Ivakhnenko" <aavuso@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Thomas,
> > > >
> > > > > I wonder any one in this group knows the
> > Buddha's
> > > > racial appearance
> > > > > according to the Pali texts. He was born in
> > the
> > > > Nepal region. The
> > > > > inhabitants in the region at that time may be
> > > > closer to the Himalayan
> > > > > race.
> > > >
> > > > As a representative of Ariya higher varna,
> > Buddha
> > > > must have looked like
> > > > like Slav, Osset, or Persian (Iranian-Afghan).
> > > >
> > > > Genetic analysis shows that the higher varnas in
> > > > India still are much
> > > > closer genetically to Europeans, than the lower
> > > > varnas.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/05_01/Indo-European.shtml
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html
> > > >
> > > > Probably the earliest Gandhara and Mathura
> > images
> > > > preserve his features:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.answers.com/topic/buddhahead-jpg
> > > >
> > http://www.gandhara.com.au/gandhara_showcase5.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MathuraBodhisattvaSide.JPG
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dmytro
> > > >
> > >
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