Hello everyone,

I remember that E.J.Thomas, already quoted, alludes to
the hypothesis according to which at the time of the
Buddha, dominant clans of Himalayan tribes were given
the status of Khattiya by the Indo-Aryans. That might
be what happened with the Sakya if these were
"Himalayans" rather than Aryans.

Happy Wesak to all,

May all beings be released from suffering and reach
Nibbâna,

Jacques Huynen

--- thomaslaw03 <thomaslaw03@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think at that time a kshatriya (khattiya) is not
> necessary
> belonging to an Aryan. For example, the kingdom of
> Videha (capital
> city: Mithila) whose people are not Aryans.
>
> Regards,
>
> Thomas Law
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Jacques Huynen
> <jhuynen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I agree with Dmytrio. There is no such thing as
> > Nepali racial features since Nepal is precisely
> the
> > meeting ground of the "indo-european" and
> "mongoloïd"
> > stock. It seems it was already the case at the
> time of
> > the Buddha (cf E.J. Thomas, The Life of the
> Buddha,
> > Legend and History). But since the Buddha is
> > considered by all source as a kshatriya
> (khattiya),
> > the second highest aryan cast or varna, he must
> have
> > been of indo-european stock, especially if one
> > considers that at that early period there wasn't
> yet
> > much mixing between the two stocks as was going to
> > happen later when some invaders from Central Asia
> were
> > given the status of Kshatriya to become the
> present
> > days Rajputs.
> >
> > Jacques Huynen
> >
> > --- "Dmytro O. Ivakhnenko" <aavuso@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Thomas,
> > >
> > > > I wonder any one in this group knows the
> Buddha's
> > > racial appearance
> > > > according to the Pali texts. He was born in
> the
> > > Nepal region. The
> > > > inhabitants in the region at that time may be
> > > closer to the Himalayan
> > > > race.
> > >
> > > As a representative of Ariya higher varna,
> Buddha
> > > must have looked like
> > > like Slav, Osset, or Persian (Iranian-Afghan).
> > >
> > > Genetic analysis shows that the higher varnas in
> > > India still are much
> > > closer genetically to Europeans, than the lower
> > > varnas.
> > >
> > >
> >
>

http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/05_01/Indo-European.shtml

> > >
> >
>

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html

> > >
> > > Probably the earliest Gandhara and Mathura
> images
> > > preserve his features:
> > >
> > > http://www.answers.com/topic/buddhahead-jpg
> > >
> http://www.gandhara.com.au/gandhara_showcase5.html
> > >
> >
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MathuraBodhisattvaSide.JPG

> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dmytro
> > >
> >
> >
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