Re: AN1.14.1-80 Etadagga Vagga (5/7)

Dear Nina,

I have been reading the postings here although I am more of a lurker now due to my own teaching projects.

Now that you mentioned khippaabhi~n~naa, I would like to ask regarding the four ways of progress, that is, examples:
(1) difficult progress, with slow direct knowing
(2) difficult progress, with quick direct knowing
(3) easy progress, with slow direct knowing and
(4) easy progress, with quick direct knowing

Example of (4) is Sariputta. (A 4.168)
(2) is Moggallana. (A 4.167)
Would So.na Ko.livisa be an example of (1).
and (2) Baahiya Daaruciiriya?

Other examples would be welcome, too.

Sukhi

Piya


There are 2 Anguttara Suttas on this


--- Nina van Gorkom <vangorko@...> wrote:

> Dear Yong Peng,
> op 18-11-2005 16:39 schreef Ong Yong Peng op
> yongpeng.ong@...:
> > I have questions for the following two, both of which relate to
> > abhiññaa.
> >
> > abhiññaa: the word can mean transcendental knowledge or
> supernormal
> > power.
> -------
> N: Five are mundane, they are supranatural powers, and the sixth is
> the
> attainment of arahatship.
> --------

> Y. P.: Having consulted a couple of references, I agree that for
> > Bhaddakaccana, mahaabiññappatta = one who attained great
> supernormal
> > powers, but now I can't see how different she is from
> Uppalavanna,
> > who is foremost in supernatural powers too.
> >
> > For Bhadda, I think khippaabhi~n~naa = quick knowing =
> spontaneous
> > understanding. This is based on the story of Bhadda Kundalakesa,
> and
> > also Bahiya Daruciriya the thera. What do you think?
> --------
> When khippa is added, I am inclined to think that they quickly
> attained
> arahatship. The sixth power is the most important.
> As to the distinction mahaabhiññaa, I do not know whether this
> pertains to
> all six.
> Nina.
> >
> > metta,
> > Yong Peng.
> >
> >
> > --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Nina van Gorkom wrote:
> >
> >> 9. ... Khippaabhi~n~naana.m yadida.m bhaddaa ku.n.dalakesaa.
> >> of the ones with quick intuition / that is / Bhadda / curly hair
> >> Among those with quick intuition: it is curly hair Bhadda.
> >> ----------
> >
> > N: quick to win supranatural powers. I would rather prefer the
> > litteral: abhiññaa instead of intuition. There are six abhiññaas
> > classified.
> >
> >> 11. ... Mahaabhi~n~nappattaana.m yadida.m bhaddakaccaanaa.
> >> of the ones who attained great knowledge / that is /
> Bhaddakaccana
> >> Among those possessing great knowledge: it is Bhaddakaccana.
> >> ---------
> >
> > N: attained great supernormal powers.
> >
> >
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