Dear Thomas,

As far as i know, sa~n~naa-vedayita-nirodha can only be archieved by an arahant (?) who steps through the arupajjhana and finally entering the phalasamapatti based on the arupajjhana. So it would be unique to someone who realized nibbana. But maybe someone else can shed some light on this - including text references...

mettâya,

Lennart
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From: thomaslaw03
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:55 AM
Subject: [Pali] Meditative attainments


Dear All,

Before the Buddha attained enlightenment, he learnt meditation from the
two Hindu gurus, and attainted the meditation states,
aaki~nca~n~naayata and then n'eva sa~n~aa-naasa~n~naayatana. That mean,
these two meditation states are from the Hindu tradition. How about
this final meditation state, sa~n~naa-vedayita-nirodha (nirodha-
samaapatti)? Does this state also come from or share with the Hindu
meditation tradition? Or it is entirely a Buddhist meditation state,
not being shared with the Hindu tradition? Please give me advice. Thank
you.

Sincerely,

Thomas Law








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