From: libris
Message: 9355
Date: 2005-11-04
> Hi,
>
> There is certainly a lot of important statistical information that
> might be
> interesting to pull out of the canon. To give one example of many.
> Take, for
> instance, the assumption that the Pali canon contains Magadhisms.
> Philologists believe that the vocative bhikkhave, for instance, is
> a
> Magadhism as opposed to that of bhikkhavo. However, there are well
> over
> 26.000 examples of the use of bhikkhave in the canon, but only about
> 160
> quotable instances of bhikkhavo. Any linguistically inclined
> philologist
> would find that statistically significant. The distribution of the
> two
> vocatives show that bhikkhavo only occurs in verse and in initial
> position
> in prose, whereas bhikkhave never occurs in such environments. This
> indicates that the interpretation of bhikkhave as a Magadhism is
> dubious to
> say the very least.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ole Pind
>
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> Clay
> Collier
> Sendt: 2. november 2005 23:41
> Til: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> Emne: Re: [Pali] most common words?
>
>
> Hi Stephen-
> I'd thought of the same question earlier, but a little searching
> over the
> years hasn't turned up any leads to anyone having carried out such
> a
> project. I initially was drawn to the idea by looking at some work
> on
> classical cryptography, and its applications to deciphering
> incomplete
> texts, or untranslated scripts. As a result, tables of
> character/letter
> frequency were the first thing that I thought of, but I think that
> there is
> a lot of other statistical information that might be interesting to
> pull out
> of the canon. I imagine that if you have a statistical 'picture' of
> what a
> particular body of text looks like in terms of the relative use of
> compounds, vocabulary, archaic or under-used declentions, etc., you
> have an
> additional piece of information to use in trying to assess if a
> given text
> is in the same style. I would imagine that philologists would have
> given
> some thought to this sort of method- not sure if it is considered
> useful or
> not, or to what extent the approach has been tried with other
> languages. Any
> linguists have any insight to offer?
>
> Clay Collier
>
> On 11/2/05, Stephen Hodge <s.hodge@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > To add to the request of James Miner fior the 100 most common Pali
> words,
> > I
> > had been thinking recently of asking a somewhat similar question:
> Has a
> > statistical count been carried out for Pali ? I have a useful
> word
> > frequency program (Hermetic Word Frequency Counter 3.07) but the
> > difficulty
> > to use it for Pali / Sanskrit is the large number of compounds and
> the
> > words
> > coalesced through sandhi. Given these problems, I can't see how it
> could
> > be
> > done -- so in the end I didn't bother to ask, though such a word
> frequency
> >
> > list would be useful for pedagogical purposes.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Stephen Hodge
> >
> >
> >
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