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>op 13-09-2005 23:53 schreef Alan McClure op alanmcclure3@...:
>> In attempting to do as Nina suggests in her message below I have found
>> it difficult to think of or find in a grammar book, the following type
>> of Kammadhaaraya compound:
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>> 3) substantive+adj
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>> I know that in English ice-cold is an example of this, but what would a
>> Paa.li example be?
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>N: Looking it up in Warder, p. 108: akaalamegho: untimely cloud.
>adhammakaaro: unlawful acting.
>cakkaratana.m: wheel jewel, a jewel shaped like a wheel.
>It is said the first member is an attribute of the second.
>Perthaps we should not think so much of the English adjective. Rather: noun
>functioning as adjective. That makes it much clearer.

Hi Nina,

I see your point, but from my point of view I don't see those words as being examples of what Alan was asking about. I think he really was thinking in terms of what would be an adjective in English standing as the final member of the compound.

This particular structure doesn't seem to be separately mentioned in traditional grammar, where as far as I can tell it would be a subset of kammadhaarayas where the qualifer comes first (visesanapubbapado). 'Cold' is qualified as being not just any old cold, but cold as ice. I haven't searched exhaustively though, and I'd be very interested in any references to where the topic is discussed. Even if the subst+adj isn't mentioned anywhere, I still think it's a genuine feature of Pali compounds. There are a number of important features of Pali grammar that the medieval grammarians missed, and it can be worth describing them as well even if that means we diverge from their terminology.

best regards,

/Rett