Dear Dmyty
I will look for some passages on this. In the meantime I'm a little
puzzled. You wrote to Steve:

"There is no argument that stream-entry is attainble without jhana.
However further progress requires completion of concentration
development"

Yet here you quote a passage where it explains that arahantship too
is reached by means of insight (without any mundane jhana)?
Robertk

In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Dmytro O. Ivakhnenko (äÍÉÔÒÏ ïÌÅËÓ¦ÊÏ×ÉÞ
¶×ÁÈÎÅÎËÏ)" <nibbanka@...> wrote:

> Dear Robert and Pali friends,
>
> We have already discussed this topic at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pali/message/3512
>
> > The ancient
> > commentaries suggest that at this late stage in the sasana that
> > sukkavipassaka is the most viable.
>
> Would you please give a reference for these commentaries?
>
> In your pervios post on this subject you rather gave reference to

the

> statements by Ven. Bodhi:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pali/message/3577
>
> The reference for the commentary I mentioned is following:
>
> In the commentary to Aane~njasappaaya sutta (MN 106)
> it is said:
> Uparipannasa-Atthakatha 4.67
>
> Samaapatti.m taava pada.t.thaana.m katvaa vipassana.m
> va.d.dhetvaa
>
> When he has made the attainment of jhana the proximate cause of
> insight and increased vipassana,
>
> arahatta.m ga.nhanto bhikkhu naava.m vaa u.lumpaadiini
> vaa nissaaya
>
> and he attains arahatship, the bhikkhu who is as it were depending

on

> a boat or a raft
>
> mahogha.m taritvaa paara.m gacchanto viya na kilamati.
>
> croses the great flood and reaches the other side, is not tired.
>
> Sukkhavipassako pana paki.n.nakasa'nkhaare sammasitvaa
> arahatta.m ga.nhanto
>
> But the person with dry insight who has thoroughly known the
> particular conditioned dhammas and attains arahatship,
>
> baahubalena sota.m chinditvaa paara.m gacchanto viya kilamati.
>
> , after he has as it were cut the stream with much force and

reaches

> the other side, is tired.
>
> Metta, Dmytro