If I understand the text correctly, it excludes those vimokkhas that pertain
to the aaruppa realm i.e the four beginning with aakaasaana.nca transcending
those that belong to the ruupa realm, but presupposes attainment of the
first three of the vimokkhas and thus would seem to imply certain levels of
jhaana.
There is a surprisingly large amount of canonical passages on
pa.n.naavimutta and pa.n.naavimutti. They would be worthwhile studying
carefully.

Best regards,

Ole Pind

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O. Ivakhnenko (?????? ??????????? ?????????)"
Sendt: 16. august 2005 11:52
Til: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Emne: Re: [Pali] Re: Jhana

Bhante Pesala,

Thank you for the quotation.

> "Katamo ca, bhikkhave, puggalo paññävimutto? Idha, bhikkhave, ekacco
> puggalo ye te santaa vimokkhaa atikkamma rüpe äruppä te na käyena
> phusitvä viharati, paññäya cassa disvä äsavä parikkhïnä honti. Ayam
> vuccati, bhikkhave, puggalo paññävimutto." (M.i.477 ¶ 182 CSCD
> Tipitaka)

> This passage clearly states that one who does not abide in those
> liberations that are peaceful and immaterial, transcending forms
> (jhaanas) can gain liberation by seeing with wisdom. It is hard to see
> why the controversy continues unabated when this passage is so
> categorical.

This passage from Kitagiri sutta
http://metta.lk/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/2Majjhima-Nikaya/Majjhima2/070-kitagi
ri-e1.htm
clearly refers to the attainment of arupa-jhanas, and not to the
attainment of jhanas per se.

Mettena cittena, Dmytro



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