<Anyway, Ole, I glad you are on board, I have always wanted to deeply thank
a living scholar who has contributed to the CPD which started just before I
was born. It is a great contribution. Hopefully we can see more fasicles and
volumes, even completion in my life time. I only have up to Vol 3.>
Many thanks! Vol. 3 Fascicles 1-7 is all that has been published so far,
and, I am sorry to say, fascicle seven is the last fascicle to be published:
It has been decided to discontinue the project.
<BTW people might like to note that the earlier editions of the CPD were
sponsorede by the Carlsberg Foundation. Wonder if this is the same as the
famous beer company?>
That is correct. However, they stopped sponsoring the project after the
completion of Vol. II.
Best wishes,
Ole Pind
Sadhu and Sukhi
Piya
--- Ole Holten Pind <
oleholtenpind@...> wrote:
> The early literature seems to corroborate the assumption that suraa
> and
> meraya are kinds of majja, cf. the version of the basic precepts at
> Mahaasudassanasuttanta D II 173 ... majja.m na
> paatabba.m .... paacittiya 327, however, specifies:
> suraamerayapaane
> paacittiya.m.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ole
>
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> Emne: Re: SV: [Pali] The precepts: abstention from alcohol
>
> Dear Ole,
>
> I wonder if anyone has noted the commentarial glosses something like
> the
> following:
>
> sura = "strong" drink
> meraya = stronger than sura (less water?)
> majja = very "dry" liquor (strongest of them all).
>
> Sorry I do not mention the source (probably DA): hopefully someone
> can.
>
> Sukhi
>
> Piya
>
> --- Ole Holten Pind <oleholtenpind@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello Allan,
> >
> > Just a minor addition to Dmytro's note. Pamaada,t.thaana means
> cause
> > of
> > intoxication, and majja denotes any alcoholic beverage. Suraa and
> > meraya are
> > two kinds of such beverage, as Dmytro explaine. Put together the
> > compound in
> > the context means abstention from the cause of intoxication,
> namely
> > alcohol
> > like suraa and meraya.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ole Pind
> >
> >
> >
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> > Alan
> > McClure
> > Sendt: 12. august 2005 02:58
> > Til: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> > Emne: [Pali] The precepts: abstention from alcohol
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > In the Jivaka sutta of the Anguttara Nikaya, we have the case of
> > abstention
> > from alcohol discussed. The relevant section is:
> >
> > yato kho, jiivaka, upaasako paa.naatipaataa pa.tivirato hoti.
> > adinnaadaanaa
> > pa.tivirato hoti, kaamesu micchaacaaraa pa.tivirato hoti,
> > musaavaadaa
> > pa.tivirato hoti, suraamerayamajjapamaadatthaanaa pa.tivirato
> hoti;
> >
> > ettaavataa kho, jiivaka, upaasako siilavaa hotii''ti.
> >
> > Understanding that pa.tivirato means "abstaining from," I am
> trying
> > to
> > understand what it is, in fact, that should be abstained from in
> the
> > case of
> >
> > alcohol.
> >
> > The particular word in question is:
> > suraamerayamajjapamaadatthaanaa
> >
> > I am not sure what type of compound this is, so I am not able to
> > decipher
> > its meaning, though I can see the components of "rum and spirits,
>
> > intoxicants," etc.
> >
> > So, is it indeed the case that this compound is refering to the
> > abstention
> > from:
> >
> > "alcohols, spirits and intoxicants [that lead to] heedlessness"
> >
> > or abstention from:
> >
> > "alcohols, spirits and intoxicants [to the point of]
> heedlessness."
> >
> > I appreciate your knowledge, as the differences between the
> various
> >
> > compounds are generally still beyond me.
> >
> > Metta,
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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