Re: Group renewal and other issues [Re: Pali Group Renewed [Re: Cur

I still feel you should carefuly study the Buddha-L guidelines., otherwise this
website will end up as a quirky parochial cold Pali huddle and nothing else. The idea
is to express one opinions (whichever school) but to say this in a civil way and not
ad hominem (personal).

There will always be quirky people in anywhere. It is how to deal with them: perhaps
I should say there are not quirky people, only quirky messages and reactions.

Sometimes we can be nice for our own benefit, but if we benefit all or most, it
really helps. The quirks of a few should not allow the many to suffer. Nor the group
cause the few to be at unwholesome advantage.

Dharma is best learnt in a inquisitive way: we should be curious why others think
differently: we may learn a thing or two from them.

We should not be too sure of our views unless we are enlightened. Even then, the
enlighten have no views, as the Suttas often declare.

May the moderator be firm yet wise and open.

Sukhi

Piya

Ong Yong Peng wrote:

> Dear Ven. Dhammanando, Rett, Robertk, Terry and friends,
>
> thank you for your kind words.
>
> Bhante, I think it is still good to keep the 10-day break ("curfew"),
> so that everyone can take a breather, relax, and let things settle
> down a bit.
>
> The central theme of the group is "Pali-focused, Nikaya-centric".
> By "Pali-focused", I mean focus on Pali language, as opposed to
> Sanskrit, Chinese, Tibetan, etc., and it includes all Pali
> literature. This is the broader scope of the group. By "Nikaya-
> centric", I mean the Sutta Pitaka, as opposed to Abhidhamma, Vinaya,
> and other Pali literature. This is the narrower scope of the group.
> At all time, we strive for a good balance between the broader and
> narrower scopes.
>
> Robert and Terry, I share much of your sentiments, and understand the
> efforts involved in research work very well. I am scrupulously
> looking for postings that contain offensive language, as well as
> those with nothing but silly remarks. I believe they are all gone by
> now. A second round of checks merely acts as reassurance. So, if
> there is no one raising objections to any particular message in the
> archive, they should all remain "locked in".
>
> Rett, by "scholarly ideas", I mean (1) ideas or concepts which are
> either not well established as Buddhist, or not completely accepted
> by Theravada practitioners. These ideas may or may not be from non-
> Theravada Buddhist schools. They may or may not have been published
> in academic journals. I don't think we should forbid their
> discussion. It actually allows us to better appreciate the
> diversified and colourful world of Buddhist/religious philosophy, and
> nurtures in us the understanding and respect for others. But, lengthy
> thesis-like messages are not really necessary. (2) Ideas or concepts
> which are well established as Buddhist, and completely accepted by
> Theravada practitioners. Again, lengthy thesis-like messages are not
> really necessary. It makes them look more like a (one-way)
> dissertation than a (two-way) discussion. While it is nice to cover
> the length and breadth of Buddhism, this list should not disintegrate
> into a "clearing house" of all conceivable ideas. Lastly, It is also
> good to discuss things as basic and practical as possible, rather
> than using some "big words". It is also good to quote from Pali
> sources, rather than from unfamiliar non-Pali sources.
>
> In addition, I would like to clarify two other issues raised in
> recent posts.
>
> 1. There are talks about people with private agenda. I think things
> are not that bad, but I like to advise everyone to bear good will,
> compassion and loving-kindness during discussion.
>
> 2. Someone suggests using the online polls feature to collect
> feeback. I think it is a great idea. All the Yahoo! features are
> available to members. Please use them responsibly.
>
> Thanks again for your patience.
>
> metta,
> Yong Peng.
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Bankei wrote:
>
> > If you are going to delete any of these could we be told so that
> they can be moved to another dtabase.
>
> I would have to agree with Robert. These messages contain important
> information that should be preserved somewhere if possible.
>
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