Dear Robert,
My simple answer is those antarabhava beings the monks
met could be just ghost or semi-deva.They can lie to
the monk easily because the monk also don't have real
dibba cakkhu to confirm their saying.Maybe some people
have to reborn as ghost for seven days,etc


--- rjkjp1 <rjkjp1@...> wrote:

> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, libris <libris@...>
> wrote:
> > Robert,
> >
> > Basically, Ajahn Brahm (and the forest monks of
> Ajahn Chah) believe
> there is an antarabhava, partly from the numerous
> accounts in the
> Suttas, and according to Ajahn his personal
> experiences dealing with
> the dying in Thailand (I have not inquired further
> on this). Hoping he
> has written on this and will be published.
> >
> > ________
> Dear Piya Tan
> Thanks. I am somewhat surprised as this particular
> view was one of
> those refuted at the third council some 2300 years
> ago.
>
> From the Katthavatthu atthakattha *(translation
> Pali text society)
> "at that congress (the third council)the elder Tissa
> Moggalis son to
> avert al bases of heresy that ahd arsien and might
> in the future
> arise, analysed in detail the heads of discourse
> which had been
> delievered by the master into 500 heterodox and 500
> orthodox
> statements and so uttered the book of the bases of
> discourse@
>
> (page 212 PTS)
> VIII2.
> Of an intermediate state (anatarabhava)
> Controverted state: That there is an intermediate
> state of existence.
> So (as for instance the Pubbaseliyas and sammitiyas)
> held that tehre
> is an interim state where a being awaits
> reconception..
> Teh conuter argument is based on the Exaleted ones
> dictum that there
> are three sates of becoming only - teh kama , the
> Rupabrahma and the
> arupabraham worlds.. ""
>
> It goes on for a full two pages .
> Robertk
>
>
>
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