Dear Sir,

> In addition to my suggestion, you might like to look at the
> atthakatha on
> Itivuttaka 87. It seems helpful. What do you think ?

Thank you, that clears things up immensely - but it still doesn't make
me want to translate the terms any differently... what are your
translations based on this commentary (I'm especially interested in
coupling it with sa~n~naa)?

Best wishes,

Yuttadhammo