Venerable Bhante Pesala,

op 05-02-2005 15:46 schreef Bhikkhu Pesala op pesala@...:

> Could someone kindly throw some light on the etymology of these four words
> from the Puggala Paññatti, and Pugglavaggo of the Anguttaranikaaya, Book
> of Fours:
N: from Human Types (PTS translation of Puggala Paññatti p. 58), Human Types
by Four:
1. > Ugghatitaññuu, <The person who comprehends the doctrine at the time of
its pronouncement is said to be quick in acquiring>
N: this happened in the Buddha's time. People attained enlightenment even
after hearing a few words. We can think of Sariputta who listened to Assaji.
2. > vipañcitaññuu, <The person to whom comprehension of the doctrine comes
when the meaning of what is briefly uttered is analysed in detail.>
N: He needs a longer explanation than type 1.
3: neyyo, <The person to whom comprehension of the doctrine comes by
recitation, questioning and earnest attention and by serving, cultivating
and waiting upon lovely friends is one who may be led.>
N: He may attain enlightenment after questioning and considering again and
again, being mindful of realities over and over again. Association with a
wise friend is an important condition.
4: padaparamo, <The person to whom comprehension of doctrine would not come
in this life, however much he may hear and say and bear in mind or recite,
is said to be one with whom the word is the chief thing.>
N: He understands pariyatti and may begin patipatti, and these will be
conditions for pativedha in a future life.
At the present time there are only the third and fourth types of persons. We
are further away from the Buddha's time.
>
Bhante: The translation of the Bodhipakkhiya Diipanii by Venerable Ledi
Sayaadaw
> says that the first two are those who gain realisation of Dhamma on
> meeting the Buddha "in person." I don't see this sense at all in the
> commentary. Venerable Saariputta and Venerable Moggallaana both gained
> realisation just on hearing the Dhamma, without meeting the Buddha in
> person. They were clearly both of the Ugghatitaññuu type.
N: Yes. They had accumulated sati sampajannña in many, many former lives and
listened to former Buddhas. The classification of the four types of persons
illustrates that it all depends on conditions, on accumulated paññaa to what
extent a person can penetrate the four noble Truths. Nobody in the world can
force conditions. It is Dhamma niyama. However, this is not discouraging,
the right conditions can gradually be cultivated so that pannñaa can develop
from life to life.
Nina

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