Dear Dimitry, Nina, Jim and all

Dimitry wrote:

"Though all models are a matter of conventionality, I find the
ramified model more exact. It also better agrees with the findings
of modern neurophysiology that the input signals are simultaneously
processed by several subsystems of neural systems. Thus the
processing of the signals by vedanaa and sa~n~naa is better
described as not sequential but parallel, though these processes are
of course interrelated."

Please read the following from

Dhammasanganii, Abhidhaamma
Pi.taka.

1. Cittuppaadaka.n.dam

Kaamaavacarakusalam

Padabhaajanii

1. Katame dhammaa kusalaa? Yasmim samaye kaamaavacaram
kusalam cittam uppannam hoti somanassasahagatam ñaa.nasampayuttam
ruupaaramma.nam vaa saddaaramma.nam vaa gandhaaramma.nam vaa
rasaaramma.nam vaa pho.t.thabbaaramma.nam vaa dhammaaramma.nam vaa
yam yam vaa panaarabbha, tasmim samaye phasso hoti, vedanaa
hoti, saññaa hoti, cetanaa hoti, cittam hoti, vitakko hoti, …"

The above passage shows that when a mental event happens by taking
one or another of the six stimuli, namely, the five sense objects
and one mental object, relevant mental associates such as contact,
feeling, memory, activation, thinking and the like also arise
simultaneously.

Please note the clause "cittam hoti" which the Buddha intentionally
included to indicate the mind and its mental associates (cetasikas)
arise simultaneously.

Please also note how the Buddha repeated the verb 'hoti' for each
menal associate.

With regards,

Suan

http://www.bodhiology.org



--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Dimitry A. Ivakhnenko (Äìèòðèé
Àëåêñååâè÷ Èâàõíåíêî)" <koleso@...> wrote:

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Though all models are a matter of conventionality, I find the
ramified
model more exact. It also better agrees with the findings of modern
neurophysiology that the input signals are simultaneously processed
by
several subsystems of neural systems. Thus the processing of the
signals by vedanaa and sa~n~naa is better described as not sequential
but parallel, though these processes are of course interrelated.
.
.

Best wishes,
Dimitry