Hi, Stephen,

Like Dimitry, I find this an interesting digression.

> Yogacara is not some form of idealism as popular writing and
> sloppy scholarship would have us believe -- it is actually a form
> of phenomenology.

Doesn't the first verse of Vasubandhu's Twenty Verses refer to
objects as being "non-existent"? Sorry, I don't have the Sanskrit
here, and even if I did it probably wouldn't do me much good, as it's
many years since I studied Sanskrit!

> The Yogacarins and Pramanikas posited a special kind of yogic
> perception which gives direct access to sense objects and which is
> not mediated by the normal mental processes. Buddhas are thought
> to have a similar ability.

Isn't that a sort of stealth realism?

Derek.