Dear Stephen,

This is interesting discussion. At the risk of being labelled as "Mind Only"
proponent (actually I just a poor old student), one might ask if not all
"sense-objects" are "mental products"? Is there a point during our conscious or
perceptual process where we can stop and say, that's it, this is the point where the
mind shall not colour it?

Could this at the level of samjna, before samskaras set in.
Someone has tried to explain our mind-process in the sequence of the four aggregates:
feeling, perception, formations, consciousness.

This is really a fascinating area of Buddhist psychology.

Sukhi

Piya

Stephen Hodge wrote:

> Dear Dimitry,
>
> Thank you for your comments and lengthy set of quotations which corroborate
> my contention that nimitta is a mental product not a sense object. I agree
> with you that these terms must often be seen in the light of what we would
> call meditation. Even when this is not made explicit in the Buddha's
> dialogues, it is often the underlying assumption. If one overlooks this,
> then one can go astray both in one's understanding of teh text and also in
> one's meditational practice.
>
> Best wishes,
> Stephen Hodge
>
>
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