Dear Khaik-Cheang Oo,
In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "cheangoo" <cheangoo@...> wrote:

> Hi Frank, Robert, Nina, Dimitry and others,
>
> Fogive me for butting in so late but I see the thread is still
> running on the jhanas.

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I appreciate you continuing the discussion, please add more.I just
add something on this point for now:
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>
> Then about accumulation of good kamma, and how times have
> deteriorated in these declining years of the Sasana - that's all
> Commentary stuff. The suttas never say any such thing.

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From the sutta Pitaka
Samyutta Nikaya IX (20)7
p708 of Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation

The Peg
"Monks, there once was a time when the
Dasarahas
had a large drum called 'Summoner.' Whenever Summoner was split,
the
Dasarahas inserted another peg in it, until the time came when
Summoner's original wooden body had disappeared and only a
conglomeration of pegs remained.
"In the same way, in the course of the future there will be
monks who
won't listen when discourses that are words of the Tathagata --
deep,
deep in their meaning, transcendent, connected with emptiness --
are
being recited. They won't lend ear, won't set their hearts on
knowing
them, won't regard these teachings as worth grasping or
mastering.
But they will listen when discourses that are literary works --
the
works of poets, elegant in sound, elegant in rhetoric, the work
of
outsiders, words of disciples -- are recited. They will lend ear
and
set their hearts on knowing them. They will regard these
teachings as
worth grasping & mastering.

"In this way the disappearance of the discourses that are words
of
the Tathagata -- deep, deep in their meaning, transcendent,
connected
with emptiness -- will come about.

"Thus you should train yourselves: 'We will listen when
discourses
that are words of the Tathagata -- deep, deep in their meaning,
transcendent, connected with emptiness -- are being recited. We
will
lend ear, will set our hearts on knowing them, will regard these

teachings as worth grasping & mastering.' That's how you should
train
yourselves."
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>
> I am not a follower of the Commentaries. I have not tried to start
> reading the Vidsuddhimagga, because I find the suttas complete and
> adequate. >
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Anyway I add something from the commentary to the above sutta:
The commentary notes that this means deep teachings such as
those dealing with emptiness(sunnatapatisamyutta), explaining
mere phenomena devoid of a being (sattasunnata-dhammamattam eva
pakasaka)
[like the whole of the Abhidhamma? -robert]
RobertK