Dear Nina and friends,

thanks. For vutta, I notice Duroiselle calls it passive perfect
participle. However, Warder and PED simply calls it past participle,
and on page 40 (Lesson 7), Warder mentions that "the past participle
is normally passive (kammapada) in meaning" and yet "are sometimes
constructed as active". Thanks again.

metta,
Yong Peng

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, nina van gorkom wrote:
> Yes, it is nominative, it is subject of a passive: vutta.m: what is
said.
>
> > Am I right to say that both ya.m and ta.m in "Iti ya.m ta.m
vutta.m" are in nominative case? Thanks.