Dear Jim,

Thanks for your info. This is an interesting passage and connected in a
general way with my paper on moral transparency with which I hope to
conclude my paper on "Monastics and Money" inspired by the comments of Ajahn
Brahmavamso, the ex-bhikkhu Dhamminda and Mohan Wijayaratna, and at the
request of my Sutta Discovery class students. I think the laity's basic
awareness of the Vinaya helps or inspires the monastics to keep to their
Monastic Code and become better teachers for our benefit.

In a way, all these quotes are extensions of "moral shame" (hiri) or as the
Commentaries put it, "other-regarding" moral conduct.

Sukhi.

Piya.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Anderson" <jimanderson_on@...>
To: <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 08 June, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Pali] Buddha knows


> Dear Piya,
>
> This probably isn't what you're looking for as it only refers to the
> devas but I thought I'd mention it anyway. The passages are found in
> the sutta at AN III.36 (A I 142f) which describe how some devas (the
> ministers, princes, and kings) of the realm of the Four Great Kings
> (caatummahaaraajikaa) regularly go out as reporters to observe the
> deeds of humans on the 8th, 14th, & 15th day of each half month. The
> Kings later report the matter to the Devas of the Thirty-three.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jim
>
> > I still hope some generous scholar out there will help me locate the
> > reference where it is said that Buddha/s and devas know/see what we
> are
> > doing. I prefer not to make a Sutta quote when I am uncertain of its
> exact
> > reference.
> >
> > Sukhi.
> >
> > Piya
>
>
>
>
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