Dear Jim,

Excluding the CPD, which is very thorough and I hope will be completed
within my lifetime.

Sukhi.

P

----- Original Message -----
From: <jimanderson_on@...>
To: <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 22 February, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: [Pali] Re: sutta reference industry standard


> Dear Piya,
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Piya Tan" <libris@...> wrote:
> > Dear Jim,
> >
> > I've simplified and adapted the academic Pali text convetions for
> my own use
> > which I find very convention. I find the "industry standard" change
> every
> > academic tenure or so. As such, we are on our own so to speak as
> far as
> > conventions apply, but some commons sense standard helps. Authors
> usually
> > give the key to the conventions they use at the beginning or the
> end of
> > their works.
>
> I disagree with your statement that <quote> the "industry standard"
> change every academic tenure or so. <endquote> The CPD standard that
> I'm referring to was already well-established in 1924 and little has
> changed since then apart from the addition of new abbreviations for
> the texts later added to its bibliography. What I have noticed,
> however, is the shift away from the PTS standard towards the CPD
> standard by leading academic scholars, editors, and translators in
> the publications of the PTS over the past decade or so -- K.R.
> Norman, Peter Masefield, Margaret Cone, P. Pecenko, to name a few.
> Many of the abbreviations used for the canonical texts happen to be
> the same so one doesn't see much difference there. It's mostly to do
> with how the post-canonical texts are abbreviated, I think.
>
> > However, through years of key-punching and writing I find it easier
> to write
> > D rather than DN for Diigha Nikaaya and so one. One reason is when
> I have to
> > quote the Commentaries, I would rather use the DA than DNA (?) or
> DN-A or D
> > Comy.
>
> Although the CPD started off with DN, it now uses the single letter.
> The CPD uses Sv (for Suma"ngalavilaasinii) instead of DA.
> Incidentally, there doesn't seem to be a widely-accepted standard
> abbreviation for "commentary". CPD uses Ct. and I saw where Norman
> uses cty, and Comy is another one that seems to be in use.
>
> > I think the obiquitous hyphens in the UKABS convention are
> redundant and
> > tedious.
>
> The hyphen is often used in the CPD standard abbreviations for
> commentaries and subcommentaries, eg. Khp-a, Sv-p.t, Pa.tis-a, etc.
>
> > I find the simplest and briefest abbreviations helpful, sort of
> Okcham's
> > razor ("Entities are not to be multiplied beyond necessity"),
> especially
> > when Buddhism ultimately reject "entities". As such, sometimes I do
> lose
> > touch with the convetion fashion.
>
> Of course, you're quite at liberty to pick and choose which
> abbreviations you find suitable for your work. I was merely pointing
> out what I consider to be the industry standard adopted by many in
> the international body of Pali academics and one that I find
> acceptable and also use. I'm also familiar with other schemes and
> don't mind them at all.
>
> > Attached is the file for the convention I use.
>
> Unfortunately, I never received the attached file. I don't think this
> mailing list allows attachments to go through. You could send me the
> file off-list, if you wish.
>
> Thank-you for your feedback.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jim
>
>
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