Dear Dimitry,

"Apperception" may be an accurate translation for sa~n~naa, would it be
awkward to say:

"the realm of neither-apperception-nor-non-apperception"?

Sukhi.

P.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Дмитрий Алексеевич Ивахненко (Dimitry A. Ivakhnenko)"
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To: "Frank Kuan" <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Pali] sanna, perception, aperception, consciousness cognizing


> Hi Frank,
>
> FK> (having no psychology background) I find the
> FK> distinction between perception and aperception
> FK> confusing. Both seem to involve discriminating using
> FK> memory.
>
> In my opinion perception is more primary, in Buddhist terms it refers
> to the arising of impression (phassa - contact) on the basis of sense
> object, sense organ and consciousness, and consequent categorization,
> emotional reaction and decision. It's a rather general term which in
> some usages includes apperception.
>
> Apperception (ad + perceptio, to perception), refers to the process
> when impression is integrated in life experience, associated with other
> impressions, categorized, classified, given a significance and labeled.
>
> Though these terms are somewhat fuzzy and similar, there's an evident
> difference.
>
> FK> I've also never been clear on what the aggregate of
> FK> consciousness is, and how it differs from the
> FK> aggregate of perception (sanna).
>
> There's a good article on vi~n~naa.na:
> http://sino-sv3.sino.uni-heidelberg.de/FULLTEXT/JR-PHIL/donald.htm
>
> In most cases it means 'cognitive or perceptive consciousness'.
> That's the third component needed for impression to arise. When
> particular sense consciousness is absent, as in case of sleep,
> unconsciousness, deep jhana or concentration on another sense, the
> impression doesn't come to be.
>
> FK> The examples from the sutta really don't shed any
> FK> light on how perception and consciousness differ.
>
> Well, there's another sutta with clearer difference:
> http://www.accesstoinsight.org/canon/samyutta/sn22-057.html
>
> Dimitry
>
>
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