Dear Christine,

It's very encouraging to know you share what I can safely say is the vision
of many of us on thei website: we love Pali and would like to focus on the
Suttas and related texts, translation and so on. In some ways, thankfully we
are not a rowdy bazaar where anything goes. Many of us have a serious
interest in the Buddhist texts and we feel this website can be of great
service even if there are a few of us.

Even better, if we can do this with respect, openness and camaraderie, a
willing to see our own mistakes and share our wisdom, not be envious of
other's success (or our perception of it), and to see a good work as a
shoulder to stand on so that we can ourselves grow in our understanding in
the Buddha Dharma.

By all the good actions I have done, and all the good intentions of those
who cherish this website, may be get more sane and engaging people like you.

Sukhi.

P.

----- Original Message -----
From: <cforsyth@...>
To: <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:55 AM
Subject: [Pali] Re: Group Statistics


> Dear Yong Peng, Piya and friends,
>
> I am one of the (mainly lurking) members who read at the website. I
> do this for all the Buddist groups I am subscribed to - from the Home
> Pages, so I am aware of daily fluctuations in numbers of all these
> groups. All Things Pali Group numbers are more stable than the
> other groups. Some of the larger groups (between 500 and 1200
> members) have large swings as window-shoppers come and go, verbal
> gang wars are won and lost, or people's in-boxes give way under the
> strain. One list I am on averages more than a hundred emails each
> day. Many lists are buddhist in name only, and are simply discussions
> on a melange of 'new age' topics. Moha, dosa and lobha reign
> supreme. Rarely are the texts of any tradition even alluded to in the
> posts. Many of these lists have hundreds of members who joined in,
> say, 1999 and have never posted. I'm sure if the moderators
> used 'probe' software they would probably find that half the email
> addresses were no longer valid.
>
> People's personalities differ. They do what they are most
> comfortable doing. In a 'face to face' group, some people regularly
> talk often, some make an occasional comment, some only listen. They
> are all participating. All Things Pali Group is no different. I
> think it is important not to define 'participation' in a narrow
> sense. Participation doesn't only mean writing to the list. I have
> been 'participating' for a long time, even though I have only posted
> a few times.
>
> This is a valuable list. It is extremely successful at doing what it
> was set up to do. Naturally, small improvements should always be
> considered, but a specialist gourmet restaurant should never attempt
> to complete with the McDonald's of this world.
> There is no problem.
>
> metta,
> Christine
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Ong Yong Peng <ypong001@...>"
> <ypong001@...> wrote:
> > Dear Piya and friends,
> >
> > Piya, since you have pointed out about the participation rate,
> which
> > I think is an important part of modern management, I have gathered
> > some statistics which is only visible to the moderator. I hope you
> > will find this useful and perhaps put forward some suggestions on
> how
> > to improve participation.
> >
> > Membership: 229
> >
> > No. receiving individual emails/daily digest: 116
> > No. receiving special notices: 12
> > No. receiving no emails: 101
> >
> > From the statistics, 116 (50.66%) members are receiving the emails.
> > 12 members have chosen to receive email messages only when there
> are
> > important updates from the moderator [Only mails from the moderator
> > and marked as a Special Notice will be sent to them]. The remaining
> > 101 (44.10%) choose not to receive email. I believe a good number
> of
> > them read the emails by visiting the group's site regularly, while
> > others may visit less frequently, however there is no way to track
> > them.
> >
> > metta,
> > Yong Peng
>
>
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