-Dear Kumara,
When I said you can get complete set of sixth council book ,I do not mean you can get all publication from this buddhasasana samiti sixth council because this foundation are too young (50 years)compare to Publisher like hanthawaday and tudhammavadi (100 years)etc.Buddhasasana samiti has no time to redo all their 3000 books-1500 in pali like madhutika,manidipa and grammar like nyasa.1000 for tran like nissaya on com etc.Also lost tika .Buddhasana samiti has only about 250 with a bit tran on them.
mahindrama has 25 vol of thumavadi in their library
which are very old and dirty.
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From: "Ong Teng Kee" <
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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 06:50:45 -0500
To:
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Subject: Re: [Pali] New Pali Tipitaka Project
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> All these should be answered by Aggacitta if his is a real scholar.Take your computer to penang burmese temple to check their complete sixth council text .You have to know that sixth council books are not a team work but individual work like their dict and tran on tipitaka.There should not be a complain about vri making mistakes because they are doing a favor for people who cannot spend 20 usd on each volume. Look at mahasi and nyanuttara who even overlook buudhaghosa did not recommed sukkhavipassaka for everyone but reject it.(a fact that sujato did not know)
>
> Pre sixth council vol for the books are not the same -AN tika is in two vol instaed of three,Vajirabuddhi is one instaed of two.The word are more compound-like as Supapha na bangchang said in his majjhima tika intro about old and new burmese majjhima tika.See vol of pre sixth council in Penang mahindrama temple.
>
> --- Original Message -----
> From: Kumaara Bhikkhu <venkumara@...>
> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 10:16:42 +0800
> To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Pali] New Pali Tipitaka Project
>
> > At 07:13 PM 05-01-03, Ong Teng Kee wrote:
> > >I found out last night that VRI cdrom is correct in Myanmar script but not in Roman which could be the software conversion is faulty.They type in myanmar script follow the book from sixth council.
> > >I compare a abhidhamma tika in Thuddhamma series (pre sixth council)but it is not the same with the cdrom which prove that your saying is wrong.
> >
> > You might be right.
> >
> > Can you share a few things:
> > 1. Are you referring to the Myanmar or the Roman script?
> > 2. How about other books? Did you find the same?
> > 3. Can you give us a short example? With that, we may get to see how the machine conversion could have gone wrong. I can read Myanmar scripts --- though at a crawling speed.
> >
> >
> > >Most of those pre sicth council books are without heavier ink for commented word-xxxxx ti,so they cannot type those in the cdrom without new sixth council books.
> >
> > You've got a point there.
> >
> > I thinking: Can't the VRI people bold them themselves?
> >
> >
> > >Also pre sixth council books have reading connected a lot compare to the new one.
> >
> > Sorry, can you come again?
> >
> > I still trust Sayadaw U Silananda's words on the issue that VRI's CSCD does not contain the CS version. He *was* among the editors of the council. I don't see him as one who makes rash statements.
> >
> > kb
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ong Teng Kee" <ongtk@...>
> > >Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 07:04:13 -0500
> > >To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Pali] New Pali Tipitaka Project
> > >
> > >> I like to add that the nun is Supaphan Na Bangchang if I am not wrong.She is a student of Lily De silva .She did edit majjhima tika mulapariyaya vagga with almost all sinhala readings on the main line.
> > >> As I have to repeat -We do not need any more new tipitaka only or with the same com and tika printed edition but we do need those lost tika like linatthadipani on patisambhida by vacisara,netti ganthi etc where it can help us to understand about misunderstood topic in sukkavipasaka etc.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Ong Teng Kee" <ongtk@...>
> > >> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 06:49:48 -0500
> > >> To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [Pali] New Pali Tipitaka Project
> > >>
> > >> > I have seen it from one of my friends.It is just a all thai readings in the main reading which is not the way to edit pali text.No Lanna thai was put in the main line.They did not edit tika like samyutta tika which no edition other than from myanmar.we must abandon those readings in the leaves even it is from our own country manuscripts.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have many non sixth council printed texts from myanmar which I found the readings are not the same with the cdrom.
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: Kumaara Bhikkhu <venkumara@...>
> > >> > Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 20:04:12 +0800
> > >> > To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > Subject: [Pali] New Pali Tipitaka Project
> > >> >
> > >> > > Dear all,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I was informed by Ven. Sujato (an Australian monk, who conducted a retreat here) of a new Pali Tipitaka project undertaken by a university (MahaCulalonkorn?) in Thailand. Here's some background information about it:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1. It all started when the mother of one of the people in the project went to Rangoon (now Yangon) to observe the proceedings of the Sixth Council. She was so inspired by it that, before she died, she asked that her son print the Tipitaka for free distribution.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2. When the VRI CSCD come out, the son decided to produce a print version of it, thereby fulfilling his mother's dying wish.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 3. However, as he went over the texts, he found errors. The more he checked the more errors he found.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 4. This led to a big project under the auspices of a Thai university.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 5. From the research, they found out that:
> > >> > > There are more than 30,000 discrepancies found in the VRI version.
> > >> > > The VRI CSCD does not contain the Sixth Council version. (Sayadaw U Silananda was right.)
> > >> > > Somehow, it is found to have taken the Fifth Council (Mandalay) version as its source.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 6. Instead of reproducing the Sixth Council version (which many scholars outside Myanmar are not too happy about), they decided to produce a new version. To do this, the project took a few years and a lot of human and computer power. Among the scholars was a nun who had learnt many ancient writings to lead the transcription work. With her help, they were able to make comparison among more than ten different ancient scripts of the Pali scriptures.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 7. The texts went through repeated visual *and* verbal proofreading. So, it should have minimal typographic errors.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 8. The Pali Tipitaka Project has ended. As I was told, they have printed 1000 sets for free distribution and have recently launched it. If I remember correctly, they have included all the commentaries as well.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Please don't ask me where to get them. We managed the contact the man (whose mother's wish started all this), and he only said he'll keep us informed. That was a few weeks ago. No news since then.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > peace
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> > >> > > Kumâra Bhikkhu
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