--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Ong Teng Kee" <ongtk@...> wrote:

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> Look at mahasi and nyanuttara who even overlook buudhaghosa did not

recommed sukkhavipassaka for everyone but reject it.(a fact that
sujato did not know)

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Dear teng kee,
I looked over the book by Nyanuttara many years back so can't
remember details, I think I disagreed with some points. But I don't
remember them claiming that sukkhavipassaka was for everyone: rather
that at this time, late in the sasana, that those who attain will do
so by sukkhavipassaka. We can see this indicated by some commentaries
where they say that the arahants with 4 discrimnations will be
present for a shorter period (a thousand years according to some)
than the sukkhavipassaka arahants.

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"Mahasi said so many time sukkavipasaka is an easier way
for everyone.We are overlooking the fact if we didn't check the books"
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It wasn't exactly hard for those like Bahiya or Sariputta - if we
look at their last life only- who were not sukkhavipassaka . But
considering their countless past lives perfecting the parami needed
to be such great ones...
I think it is harder to become 'released both ways' than
sukkhavipassaka in the sense that it takes more parami developed over
more lifetimes to become released both ways.
RobertK