Re: khandha: To Dr Bittar Gabriel

Dear Dr Bittar Gabriel

How are you?

You wrote:

"If someone thinks this approach is useful and would like to know
more, I'd be happy to translate to English my French text on the
matter for the khandhâ 2. to 5., the cattâri nâma-rûpa khandhâ, the 4
types of psycho-physiological aggregates :"

It would be very helpful and interesting to read your approach in
more details. I, for one, would be very grateful to you if you
translate your French text on the matter into English.

You could post here on this list or send me your translation off-list
via either of my e-mails.

Thanking you in advance.

Suan Lu Zaw

http://www.bodhiology.org

suanluzaw@...




--- In Pali@..., "Bittar Gabriel, PhD, Geneva University"
<buddhayatana@...> wrote:

> Dear Pali friends.
>
> The categorisation of the world structures in five 5 types of

aggregates

> (pañca-khandhâ) is quite often repeated in the Suttas. I find it a

quite

> useful view of the world, when keeping in mind that it is a

categoriasation

> view, when used with flexibility and when adapted to modern

knowledge. As

> an evolutionary scientist with a peculiar interest for psychological
> aspects of it, I have adopted the following interpretation - mind

you, it's

> nothing more (or less) than that: a personal interpretation.
>
> 1. : rûpa-khandhâ, the aggregates of form
>
> include the basic elements constituting matter;
> archaic belief: the cattâri mahâ-bhûtâni - pa.thavî-dhâtu, earth

element;

> âpo-dhâtu, water element; tejo-dhâtu, fire element; vâyo-dhâtu, air

element

> -, but also sometimes âkâsa-dhâtu, space element;
> which can all be translated in modern science as: ondes-particules
> sub-atomic and atomic wave-particles, fondamental forces;
>
> the rûpa-khandhâ also include the upâdâya-rûpâ, the secundary forms,
> derived properties of which some belong to living beings (archaic

meaning:

> les 5 senses, feminity, masculinity, vitality, etc.); modern
> interpretation: ADN, enzymes, metabolism, etc.).
>
> The rûpa-khandhâ are more or less complex san'khârâ (structural

fluxes /

> processes), they constitute the non-living matter (including the

viruses)

> but also the physical basic (molecular) mechanisms of the more

complex life

> phenomena.
>
> If someone thinks this approach is useful and would like to know

more, I'd

> be happy to translate to English my French text on the matter for

the

> khandhâ 2. to 5., the cattâri nâma-rûpa khandhâ, the 4 types of
> psycho-physiological aggregates :
>
> 2. vedanâ-khandhâ, the aggregates of sensations
>
> 3. saññâ-khandhâ, the aggregates of perceptions
>
> 4. (citta-)san'khârâ-khandhâ, the aggregates of (psychic) structural
> processes which emerge from a complex (quasi-)nervous nodule
>
> 5. vi'ññâ.na-khandhâ, the aggregates of discerning consciousness
> ("consciousness-conscience"), which emerge from a coherent whole of
> structural processes set up in a process of reflection ("know

thyself");

> privileged exit-point out of sam'sâra.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Jacqueline "Gotamî Jîvarakkhî" Bittar
> Dr Gabriel "Ananda Jîvasattha" Bittar,
> PhD University of Geneva
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>
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>
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>
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> a'niccâ vata san'khârâ
> ( a'niccaa vata san'khaaraa )
> "impermanent are structural processes"
> "instables sont les flux structurels"
> Siddhârtha (Siddhaartha) Gautama Buddha
> ---------------------------------------------------