Thanks for the tip Robert.
Do you have a personal opinion on what you think it
is? Horn or the Rhino?
-fk
--- Robert Didham <
robertdidham@...> wrote:
> There is actually a huge literature on this - a good
> starting point is
> Richard Solomon's book:
>
> Salomon, Richard, 2000 A G�ndh�r� Version of the
> Rhinoceros S�tra.
> Seattle, Washington University Press
>
> A bit like the problem of exactly what a ham.sa is -
> there are as many
> arguments one way as the other.
>
> Robert Didham
>
>
>
>
> >From: frank kuan <fcckuan@...>
> >Reply-To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> >To: nsbb@yahoogroups.com, pali@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Pali] Thanissaro version different : Re:
> [nsbb] Fare lonely as
> >rhinoceros
> >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:10:07 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Ok, found out who translated that passage:
> >
> >Here's a question for you guys. The thanissaro
> version
> >is different, and it doesn't make sense (with the
> >indian rhino having one horn compared to other
> >rhinos). I did a little bit of research into
> rhinos,
> >and they do indeed live a solitary lifestyle, only
> the
> >mother and child having a bond. What's the full
> story
> >behind the horn thing?
> >
> >I have excerpts from both versions for you to
> compare.
> >
> >-fk
> >
> >================================
> >(from access to insight)
> >Translator's note: The Indian rhinoceros, unlike
> the
> >African, has only one horn. Hence the recurrent
> image
> >here. As noted under I.1, there is evidence
> suggesting
> >that the verses here were originally separate
> poems,
> >composed on separate occasions, and that they have
> >been gathered together because of their common
> >refrain.]
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Renouncing violence
> >for all living beings,
> >harming not even a one,
> >you would not wish for offspring,
> > so how a companion?
> >Wander alone, a rhinoceros horn.
> >
> >=====================================
> >Selected verses of the Rhinoceros Sutta from "Woven
> >Cadences" (Sutta Nipata), translated by E. M. Hare,
> >and published in Sacred Books of the Buddhists
> Series
> >by the Pali Text Society. Other verses are used in
> >this booklet.
> >
> >
> >Verses for Thudong-faring
> >From the Sutta-Nipata
> >
> >Put by the rod for all that lives,
> >Nor harm thou anyone thereof;
> >Long not for son -- how then for friend?
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >Love cometh from companionship;
> >In wake of love upsurges ill;
> >Seeing the bane that comes of love,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >In ruth for all his bosom friends,
> >A man, heart-chained, neglects the goal;
> >Seeing this fear in fellowship,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >Tangled as crowding bamboo boughs
> >Is fond regard for sons and wife:
> >As the tall tops are tangle-free,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >The deer untethered roams the wild
> >Whithersoe'er it lists for food:
> >Seeing the liberty, wise man,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >
> >Casting aside the household gear,
> >As sheds the coral-tree its leaves,
> >With home-ties cut, and vigorous,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >Seek for thy friend[1] the deeply learned,
> >Dhamma-endued, lucid and great;
> >Knowing the needs, expelling doubt,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >
> >The heat and cold, and hunger, thirst,
> >Wind, sun-beat, sting of gadfly, snake:
> >Surmounting one and all of these,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >Crave not for tastes, but free of greed,
> >Moving with measured step from house
> >To house, support of none, none's thrall,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >
> >Free everywhere, at odds with none,
> >And well content with this and that:
> >Enduring dangers undismayed,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >Snap thou the fetters as the snare
> >By river denizen is broke:
> >As fire to waste comes back no more,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >
> >And turn thy back on joys and pains,
> >Delights and sorrows known of old;
> >And gaining poise and calm, and cleansed,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >Neglect thou not to muse apart,
> >'Mid things by Dhamma-faring aye;
> >Alive to all becomings' bane,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >
> >As lion, mighty-jawed and king
> >Of beasts, fares conquering, so thou,
> >Taking thy bed and seat remote,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >Poise, amity, ruth and release
> >Pursue, and timely sympathy;
> >At odds with none in all the world,
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >Leaving the vanities of view,
> >Right method won, the Way obtained:
> >"I know! No other is my guide!"
> >Fare lonely as rhinoceros.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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