Frank, could you be more specific as to where in SN that quotation is found?

metta,
Ven K

----- Original Message -----
From: frank kuan <fcckuan@...>
To: Frank Kuan <fcckuan@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 05 September, 2001 12:22 AM
Subject: [Pali] SN: puzzling suttas about monks lying


> There's a section of suttas (repetitive with minor
> variations) in Samyutta that goes something like this:
>
> Buddha: With my ability to emcompass the minds of
> others with my own mind (i.e. mind reading), I noticed
> that one of you virtuous monks in this assembly who
> would not tell a deliberate lie for a silver bowl
> filled with gold, or tell a lie to save the life of
> your own mother, has told a lie for the sake of
> reputation, fame, and honor.
>
> -=======================
> Does anyone know SPECIFICS? Like exactly what the lie
> is? From the commentary notes, it looks like the
> motivation would be to have fame among lay supporters
> so they could be invited more often and for better
> quality of food, robes, offered.
>
> I'm really curious to know exactly what kind of lie,
> and how subtle the lie, and how subtle their
> motivation these monks used in seeking
> fame/honor/reputation.
>
> I'm short on time at the moment, but if necessary I
> can look up exact page numbers and section numbers in
> the next couple of days.
>
>
> -fk