Wynn,

Based on my primary level knowledge of Pali, the quoted text (1.) doesn't
seem to say that "Arahants do not have feeling/sensation". The word
"parinibbuto" tells us that the monk "has died without being born". Would
appreciate someone correcting me if that's not correct.

As my understanding goes, an arahant still have feelings, both mental and
physical. In fact, so long as he lives, all the five aggregates still stay
with him (so to speak). However, he has abandoned them, that is to mean he
no longer clings to them. As such, having died devoid of tan.haa, he does
not come to being again.


peace

Kumaara Bhikkhu

----- Original Message -----
From: wynn <wewynal@...>
To: <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 30 August, 2001 12:06 AM
Subject: [Pali] No feeling?


> Hi,
>
> Can you explain this to me?
> Does it means that Arahants do not have feeling/sensation?
> Can Pali experts share some light on this if you have come across this
passage before?
>
> ===
>
> Regarding the experience of the arahant, the Suttanipata states that by
the destruction of all feelings/sensations a monk lives desireless and at
peace. [1] Once Sariputta was asked what happiness there can be when there
is no feeling/sensation.[2] He explained that the absence of
feeling/sensation itself is happiness. [3]
>
> 1. Vedananam khaya bhikkhu nicchato parinibbuto: Sn 739
> 2. Kim pan'ettha n'atthi vedayitan ti: A IV 415
> 3. Etad eva khv'ettha sukham yad ettha n'atthi vedayitam
>
> ===
>
> Thank you,
> Wynn