Dear Pali Friends

How are you?

I made an embarrassing typing error in my message 289.

The word with a typing error is "sammipethito".

Please kindly change it to "samipethito".

Apology for any inconvenience and misunderstanding.


With regards


Suan Lu Zaw


http://www.bodhiology.org

--- In Pali@..., abhidhammika@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Pali Friends
>
> The following message (dhamma-list message 22247) is my reply
> to John R Overman's message (dhamma-list message 22241). The
subject
> is a serious one. I thought you might find it useful, so I post it
> here.
>
> The message contains a translation of a Pali passage. Your comments
> on my translation are very welcome.
>
> Hope you enjoy it.
>
> Suan
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Dear John R Overman
>
> How are you?
>
> The Buddha's explanation is already complete and transparant. But,
I
> think you would like further comment on the translator's explanation
> "gandhabba is not some disembodied spirit". By the way, this wasn't
> actual wording in the MN commentary Pali. The commentary is merely
> commenting on the expression "paccupatthito hoti" found in section
> 408 of Mulapannasa, Majjimanikaya original.
>
> The expression "Paccupatthito hoti" can mean "is standing in front"
> literally. But, this meaning does not apply to the re-linking
> consciousness (patisandhi cittam)of the dead one. So the
commentator
> was forced to say the following.
>
> " Paccupatthito hotiti na matapitunam sannipatam olokayamano
> sammipethito paccupatthito nama hoti."
>
> "Is standing in front" wasn't like "standing close-by (sammipethito)
> while watching father and mother copulating".
>
> Now, the above Pali comment became "gandhabba is not some
disembodied
> spirit" in the hands of the translator, I think.
>
> In Pali Buddhism, the re-linking consciousness follows immediately
> after the dying consciousness (cuti cittam). So when father and
> mother are copulating while mother is ovulating, someone dies and
his
> re-linking consciounsess has a chance to conceive. All three events
> coincide. That is all there is to it. The right timing is made
> possible by the past actions of the father, mother and the embryo
> (gandhabba now with body).
>
> Re-linking consciousness is called "gandhabbo" in ordinary language.
>
> I hope my message makes sense to you and all other dhamma friends.
>
>
> With regards
>
> Suan Lu zaw
>
>
> http://www.bodhiology.org
>
>
>
> --- In dhamma-list@..., John R Overman <jonover@...> wrote:
> > In MN38, Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation, the last sentence of
> paragraph 26,